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how many would buy an F14 in the US?

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Last I checked and the exchange rate was slightly better, a Darryl built AO F14 without sails was just under $11k USD, plus shipping. Got an estimate for main and spin from a local loft that makes A Class and Tornado sails...main $1200, spin $800 plus battens. This puts an AO F14 at about the starting price for a US built Blade F16. We need a US builder, I'm told Vectorworks declined, and the builder I'm working with in Calif is taking a long time to find small amounts of perishible materials (CF, Vynlester, etc). It would be easier if we could order 5-10 sets of hulls at a time. Will post again if/when I make progress.


 
Posted : May 16, 2006 6:31 pm
C2 Mike
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>>>This might not be a factor in your area, but where I live there is no way to Ocean launch from the beach because of Sea Turtle protection. If you can carry it down to the waters edge everything is fine…but there is no way to move a 400 lb assembled boat from the parking lot to the water (unless you are going to bring six people to carry it in the soft sand…no cat trax...and if you could find a place wide enough for it to pass thru.) The alternative is to sail it out the inlet which was fine years ago (like I did with my h-14)…but now when the fishing tournaments have as many as 400 boats (plus at least that many in normal traffic) it is hard to thread the needle with a power boat let alone a un-powered sailboat. Add to the mix trying to tack into the predominately on-shore wind, and tacking against a 5 mph tide when it is comming in. You soon come to the reality that there is no where to go in this constricted waterway.

>>>Regards,
>>>Bob

We certainly don't go out by choice in 30kt conditions but we have been caught a couple of times. Definatly not fun but it can and does happen. We usually don't go out if the wind is above 20 kts (dry sand starting to lift off the beach).

We don't have the turtle problem here. The boats are stored in the yard and we only have to put up a jib & main and roll it down the beach (less than 50m) and we go sailing.

I guess it is all about why one goes sailing. For me, it is racing - we race, and when we are not racing, we are working on improving our skills and doing things better for when we do race. Just sailing about bores me to tears <img src=

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/>. I can see that for some people it is totally the opposite. Bottom line is - enjoy what you are sailing and respect that your boat doesn't necessarily suit everybody!

Tiger Mike


 
Posted : May 16, 2006 6:51 pm
Bob Hall
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There is absolutely no good reason to make an F14 which could be carried by one person. A wind surfer already caters very well for that situation. A 60 kilogram F14 would probably cost something like $20,000 to build and sell for 30. NO ONE would buy one!

>>The A&O is only 75KG's all up if I am reading the info correctly...I would think that the platform (hulls/beams/tramps/rudders...without the mast/rigging/sails) weigh no more than 60 KG's.

>>>If the hulls could be quickly assembled/disassembled, the individual hulls would be as light, or lighter than two typical Glass Kayaks. Like wind speed, cost of construction is also often exaggerated...LOL

>>>I love windsurfing, and have been actively involved in it since 1986...but its not my vehicle of choice if the wind is lighter than 18 mph or for going distances of more than a mile or so from my launch site. An F-14 Cat would be much more comfortable for that.

Regards,
Bob


 
Posted : May 17, 2006 12:16 pm
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One person carrying 150lbs any distance over sand????!!!! The 'Terminator' maybe. Not me though.

I've carried two girls across the beach before, one under each arm. They weighed ~105lbs each. Of course, it was much less awkward than trying to carry a 14x8' boat.


 
Posted : May 17, 2006 4:57 pm
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Arnold?! <img src=

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Posted : May 17, 2006 5:40 pm
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Not at all, I was ~ 18-19 years old and all of 150lbs. I had taken them out sailing and they didn't want to get their feet sandy before getting in their dad's (very expensive) car to go to the restaurant.

Now that I think about it, it may have been one over each shoulder, not under each arm... it was a while ago and my memory isn't as good on details as I wish it was. I do remember it tired me out some and it took me longer than usual to put the G-Cat on the Cat-Trax and wheel it up the beach to my tie-down.


 
Posted : May 17, 2006 8:14 pm
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you did mean

Arnold

from

Happy days

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Posted : May 17, 2006 11:16 pm
Bob Hall
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Darryl how much does a single
A&O hull weigh… Stripped down hull, no boards, no rudder, no beams?

Regards,
Bob


 
Posted : May 17, 2006 11:25 pm
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finished hull closed ready to attach beams etc, with chainplates mounted for side stays and bridle, and rudder gudgeons, 16.5kgs.


 
Posted : May 17, 2006 11:45 pm
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36.38 pounds for the metrically challenged


 
Posted : May 20, 2006 11:25 pm
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Too bad this appears to be going nowhere.


 
Posted : August 12, 2008 10:44 am
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This is on youtube it's part of the video Darryl was talking about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nrCYTxQDtQ

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Posted : August 20, 2008 2:07 am
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That thing come with a wing-mast?

What's it rate on Texel, DPN, etc.?


 
Posted : October 8, 2008 4:24 pm
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Yes a wing carbon mast.


 
Posted : October 8, 2008 8:56 pm
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This looks like the boat for me at this stage and in this place. I'd like to test drive one in 12kn to 22kn here or somewhere else in SE. FL.
If there's one around, would someone let me know please. I need a boat bad for this winter, while my 39 Greene Tri is in the lakes for sale. See, yachtworld.com


 
Posted : October 14, 2008 10:16 pm
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sorry Mate only avalible in AUS. In saying this Darryl has one for sale that we could send to th USA. With the aussie dollar being nackerd it would be a super bargain.
http://www.catsailor.net/cgi-bin/ubb/Forum13/HTML/000520.html


 
Posted : November 4, 2008 1:59 am
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sorry Mate only avalible in AUS. In saying this Darryl has one for sale that we could send to th USA. With the aussie dollar being nackerd it would be a super bargain.

What are shipping costs and applicable taxes? If the Aussie dollar goes south a bit more it might off set the shipping/tax costs. I would love to have it...but the economy being what it is????
It has been up for sale for quite a while...probably sold by now anyway...

Regards,
Robert


 
Posted : November 4, 2008 9:48 am
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Boat is still for sale. please contact darryl he will be able to help with your questions.


 
Posted : November 4, 2008 11:29 pm
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Someone on the F16 forum said there are Vipers being shiped to America. So you need to speak to darryl regarding the boat. Then speak tp Greg Goodall at AHPC and see if you can do a deal to get the boat in one of there containers.
Im sure you could arrange if your that keen.


 
Posted : November 4, 2008 11:42 pm
Dazz
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I think you will find the vipers go directly from where they are made to America.


 
Posted : November 5, 2008 4:57 am
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Only the Viper hulls come from Thailand. The beams,mast and all the other fittings come from Bendigo in Victoria.(Same for the Capricorn) Victoria is about 5 hours from where the F14 is.


 
Posted : November 5, 2008 10:44 pm
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