F16 tacticat team

when?

I won't have good net access for the next 2 weeks but am willing to get some of those tips.

Same here, I will be on dialup until Sept 7th. I shall try my best with what I have.

When? Dunno yet, stand by. Needs to be soon.

The selection being a loose proposal, of course, based in the bad info i've gathered.

Didn't want to hurt any feelings...

Just wanted to let folks know how they were selected.

btw- My wife was receptive to a sailing vacation in Spain! What would something like that run?

Date?

NEXT summer, for a group. I was thinking a

Tacticat Wet Regatta

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Time it around the F16 Global Challenge ... make a month of it and visit Europe sailing in different venues.

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We have plenty of time.
We can arrange something. Sure.
2007 is Americas Cup. 60 Kms from la parcela (yes, i know its monohulls...).

America's Cup? I thought the Swiss won.

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Get out your atlas and check to see how big Lake Geneva is, it may be done end for end in a day by the super cats ( about 30 odd feet with 4 crew and Genoas that came back beyond the rear of the boat ) but I think you would be easily be impressed by its size. Spain was picked on a purely commercial basis ie who would pay the most for the privilidge of hosting the event. Mind you it is a nice site and one of the prettier areas of the Spanish costas which have been so dreadfully spoilt by all the development.

is there a special tactic for team racing , or are only the first team members scored?

Add the points of all the places for your team, the team with the lowest points wins. The ISAF rules book has a section devoted to teams racing rules.

There is a whole different tactic and strategic side to team racing.

Instead of trying to do your individual best you can work together as a group to raise the points scored by the team. A few times a team member will sacrifize himself in the way of individual points to improve the team total.

I have to work now but maybe tonight we'll get into a discussion of possible tactics.

Bear in mind though that I'm not a good team racer be any standard. I know a few things and I'm a quick learning. Alot of tactics were used against me last time during a Tacticat race as was one of the top scores in the game. The spanish have their act sorted much better in this field. So we need to formulate an answer or go down in flames.

Till later.

Wouter

The date assigned to us is :

F16 Tue 5 Sep, 21:30 (GMT)

With GMT meaning Greenich Mean Time; this is the same as UTC and denotes the time zone of London England WITHOUT daylight savings time adjustment. So everybody look up your local time offset relative to UTC/GMT and be on time.

Also the true GMT time is given at the top of this page in red ! :

http://www.tacticat.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=14

So you can also deduce your local time that way.

We will be team racing the world.

Maybe it is a good idea to do some training before that time, just the sort out some obvious tactics/glitches

I say lets do this on Friday 1 sept at midnight GMT ! Everybody agree ?

For more info on team makes etc look at :

http://www.tacticat.com/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=14

We still have room for more teammembers, So Tony J. and Berny, if team Australia fails to form then you are welcome to team F16.

Wouter

Races for all teams are scheduled. The first round will be each team vs world. If you show up in numbers you can be world against any host team (F18, spaniards,...)

Dates and times at tacticat home page, but please, make your math for the GMT conversion. All pages at tacticat website show the current GMT time, you can work your time shift from there-

TimeZone converter

Thought this might help for us not familiar with GMT conversion to local time.

How about the same time on Thursday.

I will be in transit at that time. Please excuse me from the practice. In penance, I will wash the boats before the race.

I doubt I will be able to make it, during those times I will be deployed and the only connectivity I will have is dial-up. I tried playing but its worthless. Nothing but fatal connection all the time.

Sorry.

Typhoon16 Robi Pan tback tshan bobcat jalani TonyFX1 Aquata

Okay; so Bobcat and Robi will pass on the 5 sept event that leaves us :

-1- Pan (Pete Pollard)
-2- tshan (Tom Shannon)
-3- Jalani (John Alani)
-4- TonyFX1 (Tony Mels)
-5- Aquata (Holger Siebke)
and
-6- TyphoonF16 (Wouter Hijink)

All these guys can make it right ?

If not then please say so now.

Wouter

I can make it on Sep 5

I can make it, the problem is the connection will not be the best and I would rather you guys NOT count on me for competing. If you can find someone to fill in, by all means do it. If not I will be there.

I'll be there at the race (05.09)
the suggested time for training at friday 24:00 GMT is too late for me. This means 02:00 in the morning...
how about the tactic in team racing?
Is it helpful if everybody tries to cover a selected opponent, as a kind of matchrace in the race?
or to have a leader and block others behind?

My best recomendation is the let the faster sailors in front, EVEN if you have ROW, let them by.
Cover as much as posible, without loosing speed.
Do not foul your teammate - thats a big no no.

Remember its a team thing, not an individual effort.

Can i underline ones again that the first rule in team racing, as robi also said, is NOT to foul your team mate.

It is always better to steer around him (or her) then foul him. Who needs to give way is easily determined by looking who is clear ahead or when even who is in the most tight spot relative to the competition.

For example; port tack starters should always be left running as they will need all the room and speed to keep clear of the starboard tack starters. When nearing a mark then the guy pinching must be left clear. etc.

I think Robi and I showed a very nice manouvre just minutes ago in team USA vs World. We totally locked up jake and forced him to sheet out his sails and sail below his layline. Don't you think Robi ?

Wouter

okay, I understand that.

Wouter