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2013 USSA Alter Cup Announced

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Jake Kohl
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Originally Posted by Just Todd
What am I missing here? I had thought you qualified in your region, and then there was a boat supplied to you at THE alter cup event. ? Sorry for the bewilderment

Rip van Winkle in da house....


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 8:08 am
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Come on guys....rehash it again...what else have ya got to do?? <img src="<>/sleep.gif" alt="sleep" title="sleep" height="15" width="15" /> <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" /> <img src="<>/tired.gif" alt="tired" title="tired" height="15" width="15" /> <img src="<>/sick.gif" alt="sick" title="sick" height="15" width="15" /> <img src="<>/crazy.gif" alt="crazy" title="crazy" height="15" width="15" /> <img src="<>/shocked.gif" alt="shocked" title="shocked" height="15" width="15" />

(hope you know I'm just KIDDING!)


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 9:15 am
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Naw, I'm done trying to put a spin on the H16.

But I would dearly love to see a

B

fleet for Alter Cup, any Alter Cup.


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 9:29 am
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I like

B

fleets, but why would they be at the Alter Cup, which would be like racing go-carts at the F-1 finals..?

Explain how you'd like to see the B fleet at Alter Pete? Would there be a

B Fleet Alter Cup

winner or something? Would it run the same course/start as the

A

fleet?

I think I know some of the answers, but would like your vision explained in a little more detail...


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 11:27 am
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As far as I know

B

fleet was always on a separate course and mostly for the party goers rather than serious racers.

Imo, Alter Cup should come to celebrate the sport and culture of beach cat sailing. To do so it should provide a venue for the best racers who care to compete while providing a celebratory atmosphere for the rest of us.


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 11:39 am
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Now I DO like that concept....

Celebrate the sport, watch the top-tier competition and the rest of us can wander about in boats outside of the course area?


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 11:40 am
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Yeh, I guess. I'd like a big party that financially unerwrites the top tier competition without interferring with that competition.

Personally, I'd be willing to buy a seat on a spectator boat but you'd probably need to provide a

B

fleet course as well.


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 11:51 am
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Great idea but this is not the venue to do it in. Last year during a F-18 race in the same venue at one point there were 5 boats over at the same time. All but 2 boats flipped in the same race. When the wind and tide get together it tests you pretty well.


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 12:17 pm
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Want to be there and watch? Volunteer to be on a boat to help out. Jumpers, scorekeepers, ect are needed.


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 12:19 pm
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Sounds like work...


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 12:30 pm
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Cheaper than buying a seat on a spectator boat.


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 12:35 pm
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And MUCH better view!

Mike


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 12:43 pm
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Clearly you have all the money you need, wonderful.


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 12:54 pm
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Can you identify a single competition in sport that holds a championship with a seperate party competition?

I think this is a ridiculous idea... but I would love to know of a sport and event that runs such a thing.


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 1:57 pm
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You don't need a formal B fleet. Everyone is welcome, just get a boat and show up. If we get 100 boats, there would probably need to be a split fleet. Even without that, the cream rises to the top and by Day 2, it's obvious which of us are just there for the party...

Mike


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by brucat
You don't need a formal B fleet. Everyone is welcome, just get a boat and show up. If we get 100 boats, there would probably need to be a split fleet. Even without that, the cream rises to the top and by Day 2, it's obvious which of us are just there for the party...

Mike

Yeah, but I wouldn't want to be that twerp who flips at the line in front of the rock stars...

Is it just me, or the more rock stars there are in the que, the earlier everyone creeps up to the line at the prep flag?

Which leaves the hot-shots hunting each other through a veritable parking lot of boats all flogging and bobbing up the line...


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 3:36 pm
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To do so it should provide a venue for the best racers who care to compete while providing a celebratory atmosphere for the rest of us.

Sounds strangely like The Madcatter!!!! (Shameless Plug"

Spring Fever has that feel too!


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 3:49 pm
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Well, if you're showcasing your boat, your fleet and you want the rest of the sailing world to know, why give up a proven formula?

I say if any class is hosting the Alter Cup they should be given as much latitude as possible to put their boat in the best possible light.


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 4:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Tom Korz
To do so it should provide a venue for the best racers who care to compete while providing a celebratory atmosphere for the rest of us.

Sounds strangely like The Madcatter!!!! (Shameless Plug"

Spring Fever has that feel too!

Don't they all have that feel? It's just some are better at executing it than others.


 
Posted : January 28, 2013 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by F-18 5150
Want to be there and watch? Volunteer to be on a boat to help out. Jumpers, scorekeepers, ect are needed.

Great idea, I have already volunteered.
Caleb


 
Posted : February 5, 2013 9:12 pm
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what is a jumper?

Originally Posted by F-18 5150
Want to be there and watch? Volunteer to be on a boat to help out. Jumpers, scorekeepers, ect are needed.

 
Posted : February 6, 2013 10:56 am
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The Coast Guard refers to them as Rescue Swimmers. At a cat regatta, their job is to get off of the rescue boat and assist a distressed boat as needed. Duties may include righting a boat, sailing it, etc. Worst case, you may be cutting someone out from under a tramp or out of rigging. Knowledge of cats, first aid and CPR are essential.

Sounds like this should be an important element of our MHRC safety guidelines...

Mike


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 11:09 am
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Rescue jumper in action (at the same venue)
[Linked Image]
Photo by Ellie Martin
Jumper: Brett Peterson


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 11:26 am
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thats kinda what i thought..

Thanks


 
Posted : February 6, 2013 5:05 pm
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nice pic. almost looks like the

jumper

is going to get impaled by the rudder...


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 9:42 am
Jake Kohl
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I'm not sure why that's a situation that a jumper is needed (unless there is someone trapped under the trampoline...which doesn't appear to be the case here).


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 9:52 am
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he was bringing rum?


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 12:24 pm
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That's an award-worthy shot. Maybe we should come up with some fun awards for the US MHRC.

Mike


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 1:28 pm
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Originally Posted by mbounds
Rescue jumper in action (at the same venue)
[Linked Image]
Photo by Ellie Martin
Jumper: Brett Peterson

He is not a jumper - Red Bull gives you wings.


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 1:56 pm
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kinda looks like Jesus there walking over to the boat...


 
Posted : February 7, 2013 3:41 pm
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