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Yes, I checked the official site (after running a regatta today), and all of today's racing is postponed until tomorrow (they never got 6 knots, apparently).

I think the best race so far was the light air race between FRA and GBR. A nail-biter all the way through, as they had to try to foil, or sail fast without foiling until they found a puff. The race ended with a P/S cross at the finish line.

As much as I loathe the thought of ever going back to monoslugs, I do understand the concept that match racing is best with boats that sail at around the same speed, all over the course. It's hard to stay in contact and force engagement and rules infractions when the first boat to round the weather mark (or get onto foils) takes off.

Mike


 
Posted : June 4, 2017 7:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Mn3Again
what are you sailing these days?

Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb

And I know Jake's already trying to hack ENTZ database to copy their carbon layup schedule on the foil package.... <img src="<>/wink.gif" alt="wink" title="wink" height="15" width="15" />

Nah. I'm staying out of all this foiling business until things calm the heck down. I don't need that much more frustration in my life and am happy working on the finer details of rigging/sailing at the moment.

A-cat, F18, and J22. I think I'm going to list the F18 for sale soon because it just doesn't hit the water very often. My a-cat is a 2007 XJ that's super clean and I've updated it with foam decks and modernized some rigging stuff. Otherwise, it's bone stock and fast. I love the boat and have had some good results with it.

cool
ever get cough in a storm on the a-cat?


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by Mn3Again
cool
ever get cough in a storm on the a-cat?

I've definitely been out in stuff I probably shouldn't have been out in, limped to the lee of an island, dropped sail, and sailed back under mast alone (doing 11 knots). I also Had it out in a distance race a few weeks ago and the wind changed dramatically and started gusting to the upper 20s...and I was on a long a reach wishing like hell the guy ahead of me in 1st place would get off the trapeze so I could justify getting off the trapeze 😉 (definitely found a condition where a pre-foiling DNA with curved boards has an advantage over a straight board A-cat!).


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 8:19 am
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so my next question is: do you ever feel like the light boatweight is an issue? i.e. - in 20+ do you feel less stable / secure than you would on a f18?

Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Mn3Again
cool
ever get cough in a storm on the a-cat?

I've definitely been out in stuff I probably shouldn't have been out in, limped to the lee of an island, dropped sail, and sailed back under mast alone (doing 11 knots). I also Had it out in a distance race a few weeks ago and the wind changed dramatically and started gusting to the upper 20s...and I was on a long a reach wishing like hell the guy ahead of me in 1st place would get off the trapeze so I could justify getting off the trapeze 😉 (definitely found a condition where a pre-foiling DNA with curved boards has an advantage over a straight board A-cat!).


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 8:59 am
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Back to AC35 . . .

Today's races

14:08 Bermuda
NZL vs GBR (R1)

14:37 Bermuda
SWE vs JPN (R1)

15:06 Bermuda
GBR vs NZL (R2)

15:35 Bermuda
JPN vs SWE (R2)


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 9:14 am
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This is good read and transcript of Slingsby

...New Zealand still has the penalty from the boundary. Let ‘em f*ck it up...

Slingsby the Secret Weapon


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 10:11 am
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Originally Posted by P.M.
Back to AC35 . . .

Today's races

14:08 Bermuda
NZL vs GBR (R1)

14:37 Bermuda
SWE vs JPN (R1)

15:06 Bermuda
GBR vs NZL (R2)

15:35 Bermuda
JPN vs SWE (R2)

What is the wind forecast?


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 10:20 am
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Okay, so I'm looking at the TV guide and NBC will not be broadcasting the AC races today.

Their streaming app doesn't have it showing either... Their next AC stream will be Tuesday 13:00 EST

So.... any idea how to catch today's racing? Its not critical it be

live

, but would be nice to see at some point...


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 10:32 am
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NBC Sucks

Try this around race start time.

BT Sport live feed

Winds are great today and building all week.


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 10:38 am
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Originally Posted by P.M.
NBC Sucks

Try this around race start time.

BT Sport live feed

Winds are great today and building all week.

Be careful. You might get addicted. They don't show commercials during the race.


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 10:40 am
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AC Official just announced live broadcast due to commence at 14:00 ADT/17 UTC


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 10:47 am
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is it geo-blocked for us 'mericans?

okay looks like F1 racing now, so it must work.

Races start at 14:00 EST today, right?


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 10:47 am
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13:00 EST


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 10:54 am
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Racing starts in 1 hour 10 minutes. . . so there


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 10:57 am
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Breeze is banging 15+ and NZ just laid the bottom mark in one jybe in a practice run. . . .


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 11:45 am
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Racing is live on NBCSN now . . .


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 11:48 am
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I missed the start, but GBR trailed into the first leeward gate, split sides, then basically stopped before their first tack. They're looking inside the wing, obviously some sort of failure.

Mike


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 12:16 pm
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BAR just broke one of the control arms within their wings, race over for them...


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 12:16 pm
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NZL wins the first race without even finishing. That is definitely a rule change. In 2012 at the ACWS in Newport, there were several matches in which one boat became disabled, but the other had to finish to get the point.

Mike


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 12:25 pm
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Can BAR change out the wing and be ready in 40 minutes????


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 12:27 pm
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Now Artemis vs Team Japan, speeds are insane right now!


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 12:37 pm
Jake Kohl
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Okay, so I'm looking at the TV guide and NBC will not be broadcasting the AC races today.

Their streaming app doesn't have it showing either... Their next AC stream will be Tuesday 13:00 EST

So.... any idea how to catch today's racing? Its not critical it be

live

, but would be nice to see at some point...

the online website for NBC Sports Network is streaming it - I watched just a little of it before having to get back to work. You have to login with your network TV provider info that gives you access to it.


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 12:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Mn3Again
so my next question is: do you ever feel like the light boatweight is an issue? i.e. - in 20+ do you feel less stable / secure than you would on a f18?

Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by Mn3Again
cool
ever get cough in a storm on the a-cat?

I've definitely been out in stuff I probably shouldn't have been out in, limped to the lee of an island, dropped sail, and sailed back under mast alone (doing 11 knots). I also Had it out in a distance race a few weeks ago and the wind changed dramatically and started gusting to the upper 20s...and I was on a long a reach wishing like hell the guy ahead of me in 1st place would get off the trapeze so I could justify getting off the trapeze 😉 (definitely found a condition where a pre-foiling DNA with curved boards has an advantage over a straight board A-cat!).

MN3, I'll reply to you directly privately (assuming messaging works here) to keep this thread on topic.


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 12:53 pm
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JPN beats SWE. They're saying GBR is done for the day, but Kenny believes that NZL needs to at least start the second race.

Mike


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 12:57 pm
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crap just logged in to catch JPN smoking SWE

What happened to Sir Ben to get DSQ? DId he break something?


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
crap just logged in to catch JPN smoking SWE

What happened to Sir Ben to get DSQ? DId he break something?

Yes, wing controls.

Mike


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 1:00 pm
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Bit strange that the 2nd race BAR vs ETNZ will continue without BAR.


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 1:06 pm
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will they shorten course for the next races if GBR is out for the day?


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 1:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
Bit strange that the 2nd race BAR vs ETNZ will continue without BAR.

All NZ had to do was start.


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 1:12 pm
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Wow, Japan almost lost the lead when Barker tripped and fell mid-gybe <img src="<>/eek.gif" alt="eek" title="eek" height="15" width="15" />


 
Posted : June 5, 2017 1:46 pm
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