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Philip
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Either Oracle is sandbagging, experimenting with set up, or something, but they are much slower on all points of sail.


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:05 pm
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Wow, incredibly fast foiling tack by NZL, USA in floater mode...

Mike


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:05 pm
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Down 900 meters on the 4th leg is an a** whoppin'


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:08 pm
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I'm lovin' the Pelican cam an the drone live feed!


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:09 pm
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There is no second...

Yikes.

Mike


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:10 pm
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Bring on 30 knots, please!

Mike


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:12 pm
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Spectator boats are nice and close.

Mike


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:13 pm
Philip
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Oracle back in it? Wow


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:14 pm
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Wow, USA clawed back on leg 5 upwind!!!

USA protests at the windward gate, no penalty.

USA just totally pooched the gybe. I can't take much more of this!!!

Mike


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:16 pm
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They lost nearly 300 meters on the blown gybe at the start of the final run. Pretty much game over.

Mike


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:18 pm
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NZL takes Race 2. Score is 1-0, NZL.

Mike


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:19 pm
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Similar wind forecast tomorrow. Going to be a long week.

Mike


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:23 pm
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NBC is dialing up for Ted Turner's special. Interesting choice.

Mike


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 1:30 pm
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Press Conference


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 2:12 pm
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Gonna be a quick cup methinks. Oracle doesn't have any special sauce this time.

Hope y'all like the trip back to monoslugs when NZL takes the cup back.


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 7:17 pm
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Originally Posted by ThunderMuffin

Hope y'all like the trip back to monoslugs when NZL takes the cup back.

What was that Jake was saying about watching the paint dry?


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 7:42 pm
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Thanks Philip. That was (predictably) boring as hell...

Mike


 
Posted : June 17, 2017 10:27 pm
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NBC totally missed the racing in the second race, leg 5. Way too much on board cameras, close ups and not enough racing. When Oracle met up with NZ at the top, even Draper and Nathan were surprised, because they are viewing the same feed that we were.

Towards the end of leg six, NBC shows a split screen with 3 cameras, one on board for each team, and the third showing the helicopter feed showing the coarse with the virtual eye overlay. This should be the default view for the majority of the race.


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 9:49 am
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BT Sports reporting Oracle running asymmetric foils today (different between starboard and port foil). BT Sports coverage overall for the AC35 has been much better than NBC. I've been watching excellent coverage for the last hour.


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 11:39 am
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Do you have a link to the BT feed?

NZL is just crushing those first leeward legs. USA can't even pull off a foiling gybe?

Mike


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 12:18 pm
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link


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 12:22 pm
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2-0 NZL, but it doesn't even feel that close. USA needs to force NZL to really screw up the pre-start. And, they need to be faster and have cleaner maneuvers for the rest of the race.

About 10 minutes to race 4.

Mike


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by brucat

About 10 minutes to race 4.

Mike

Race 4 is over


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 1:24 pm
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Did they delay the broadcast online? I'm watching on the NBCSN app, they just rounded the first leeward gate. Should I bother watching the rest, after the way this one started (same as the prior 3)?

Mike


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 1:40 pm
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Mike, it was ugly.
You're about 20-30 minutes behind.

NZ design team 4
Oracle design team 0


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 1:44 pm
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Ok, thanks for saving me the time, frustration and battery power.

I'm going back to enjoying roller coasters and water slides with the boys. Happy Father's Day guys!

Mike


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 1:46 pm
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Day 2 Race Press Conference


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by brucat
Don't think for half a second that Ken doesn't understand VMG. He grew up racing on Narragansett Bay (shifty and puffy like a lake, with extremely variable currents), and has done a few stints in the VOR.

Unless you're on a piece of water with no current or wind shifts; VMG, like boatspeed, is something to consider, but may not always be the priority. There are times when you may prioritize one of these over the other, or sacrifice both for another goal, like placement vs your competition, or preparation for an expected shift in wind or current, etc.

Wind forecast for tomorrow says low teens, should be fun!

Mike

That was tongue in cheek - clearly the guy knows VMG with his experience.


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 3:42 pm
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Gotcha​. Weird not hearing Ken's voice, though.

Today's presser was more of the same. I remember thinking Jimmy was out of his gourd in SF (when he kept saying he was confident that they could come back and win), so I won't make that mistake again. I do like that Burling admits that his team wasn't perfect and they're striving to improve every day.

Mike


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 6:32 pm
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Originally Posted by brucat
Gotcha​. Weird not hearing Ken's voice, though.

Today's presser was more of the same. I remember thinking Jimmy was out of his gourd in SF (when he kept saying he was confident that they could come back and win), so I won't make that mistake again. I do like that Burling admits that his team wasn't perfect and they're striving to improve every day.

Mike

This time there's no coming back.

No secret sauce now.

It's hard to believe that with all of the money and technology behind Oracle, with Airbus and all of the research they've done - that they're this much slower than the NZL boat. It's not even close.

Should have partnered with Boeing. As they say in the industry,

If it ain't Boeing it ain't going


 
Posted : June 18, 2017 8:10 pm
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