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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
sure, but Louis Vitton did not sponsor the US Formula 18 Nationals...

Did anyone ask them to?

We need to do a better job of getting this type of stuff out there. My

coverage

here during this year's Alter Cup was at least timely, which blew away US Sailing's coverage, at least using that metric.

But, we've been doing web coverage very well for a very long time. Unfortunately, so far below the radar that no one outside of our universe knows about it, or believes that it's possible.

Maybe a big-ticket sponsor wouldn't be so hard to land if we approach (and value) it differently?

Mike


 
Posted : September 2, 2015 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by brucat
Maybe a big-ticket sponsor wouldn't be so hard to land if we approach (and value) it differently?

Mike

What would you posit as the return for that large investment? An audience of??? spending how much on said products?

Personally, I think LV has accepted their business model as successful. There's no way the commonfolk could afford that product, so why the heck should LV care about the unwashed masses getting entertained?

If Bermuda sells out and the VIP tent is stacked with Ritchy Rich folk, then LV wins.

So, events that target a lower socioeconomic audience probably need to go after 3M or whomever makes duct tape.


 
Posted : September 2, 2015 2:03 pm
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Did anyone see the NBC-SN recap that was originally scheduled for Tuesday night at ten, then switched to Saturday at 1:00 am?

In the Tampa Verizon market it showed on their schedule on Friday but never played on Saturday in the wee hours. Did anyone see a Gothenburg recap? Has NBC dropped the ACWC altogether?

The YouTube from Gothenburg is awful.


 
Posted : September 7, 2015 11:06 am
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Yes Dave, thanks to your info about the time change from Tuesday to Sat. I was able to record the recap @ 1 am Sat morning Verizon. Still have it on the VCR but wouldn't know how to get it to you. It was pretty good with the highlights around each mark and some interactions between marks. The first couple of races had a better wind and were exciting on the foils. Had trouble with the penalty on Oracle at the start didn't look like one to me.


 
Posted : September 7, 2015 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by David Parker
Did anyone see the NBC-SN recap that was originally scheduled for Tuesday night at ten, then switched to Saturday at 1:00 am?

In the Tampa Verizon market it showed on their schedule on Friday but never played on Saturday in the wee hours. Did anyone see a Gothenburg recap? Has NBC dropped the ACWC altogether?

The YouTube from Gothenburg is awful.

I got to see it, I watched it - it was terrible. It was so chopped up the second some drama started to develop in the fleet (usually what they WEREN'T talking about) it cut to the end of the race or something. Also, it wasn't even available in HD. It was very dumbed and watered down and not worth watching.


 
Posted : September 7, 2015 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by dartfast
Yes Dave, thanks to your info about the time change from Tuesday to Sat. I was able to record the recap @ 1 am Sat morning Verizon. Still have it on the VCR but wouldn't know how to get it to you. It was pretty good with the highlights around each mark and some interactions between marks. The first couple of races had a better wind and were exciting on the foils. Had trouble with the penalty on Oracle at the start didn't look like one to me.

They never even bothered to explain what the penalties were for both New Zealand and Oracle during that start. I didn't see anything obvious on part of either team. Bah..


 
Posted : September 7, 2015 4:41 pm
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Oracle prepares for two-boat testing


 
Posted : September 7, 2015 7:24 pm
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And some more of this. Legal


 
Posted : September 9, 2015 8:03 pm
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Originally Posted by catman
And some more of this. Legal

...because, really, what fun would the AC be without more of this???

That article does prove what I've observed for years. There's little to no money (at any level) in race management, but judges are treated quite well.

Mike


 
Posted : September 11, 2015 6:15 pm
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If you can't watch it on TV then head to Chicago.

Chicago made maritime history today with Lake Michigan chosen as the first freshwater venue to host America’s Cup racing in the event’s 164-year history.

The Louis Vuitton America’s Cup World Series Chicago, a qualifying event for the 2017 America’s Cup in Bermuda, will take place at Navy Pier from June 10 – 12.

More here.


 
Posted : September 15, 2015 3:37 pm
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Interesting. I guess New York is out?

Mike


 
Posted : September 15, 2015 5:23 pm
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What happened to to the poll function. Just wondering who gives a f$$k about this.


 
Posted : September 15, 2015 6:16 pm
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Now that the LV-AC will be in the USA do you think NBC Sports will step up and show it?


 
Posted : September 15, 2015 6:23 pm
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Lots of things happen in the US that aren't televised. It's all about ratings (aka money).

Mike


 
Posted : September 15, 2015 6:51 pm
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Finally, in my backyard. Been to San Diego (92), New Zealand (00) and San Francisco (13). Too bad it is just a weekend; and of course, in the Windy City, where the only thing that blows are politicians, it will be a crap shoot if there is good foiling wind or not. At that time of season and the weather pattern for the last 5+ years, it is probably 50/50 SE at 13 knots. But 18-20 out of the N-NE and then move the course outside of the breakwall and that would be really cool.

Here nor there, it's nice to have a opportunity to watch without a cut-up highlight show that makes you wonder what the hell happened in the 5-10 minutes they keep cutting out. Nothing like cramming four races into 40-42 minutes of coverage. Could they have had any more commercials?


 
Posted : September 18, 2015 3:20 pm
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Posted : October 5, 2015 4:49 pm
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Luna Rossa's Sirena joins Emirates Team NZ


 
Posted : October 6, 2015 9:32 am
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Video of BAR's new AC boat.


 
Posted : October 6, 2015 9:39 am
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The ACWS continues in Bermuda on October 16-18.

Two 25 minute races are scheduled per day to fit with 90 minutes for a TV show produced by America’s Cup TV (ACTV). It will be broadcast globally.

In the USA NBS Sports Network has their show scheduled for Sunday, October 18 at 2:00 pm for 90 minutes. Maybe this time we will get to see the whole thing.

The Sunday afternoon TV broadcast will begin just a few minutes after the last race has ended. That's nearly live!


 
Posted : October 6, 2015 11:01 am
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Originally Posted by P.M.
Video of BAR's new AC boat.

Wow, not only is that graphics

package

extremely unattractive, it shows that zero effort went into its design. It's like someone copied the LR logo, pasted it onto the wing, and just pitched it!

Mike


 
Posted : October 6, 2015 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by brucat

Wow, not only is that graphics

package

extremely unattractive, it shows that zero effort went into its design. It's like someone copied the LR logo, pasted it onto the wing, and just pitched it!

Mike

Well...as a graphics guy - they're kinda stuck with that oval being part of the logo and there isn't THAT much you can do with it other than surround it with some swooshes and swipes. It might just be only a minimal, cost effective, graphics package on a boat that is expected to be pushed to the point that it gets damaged and/or has a second round of modifications already planned. I thought the other things Land Rover has done on the boats looked pretty sharp.


 
Posted : October 6, 2015 1:56 pm
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^^ What he said. Big companies have all sort of restrictions on the use of their logos to protect the value of the branding. Having said that rotate it another 70 degrees, triple the size and have it span the hull, jib and wing.


 
Posted : October 6, 2015 3:40 pm
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This boat is development and will be replaced. Take a look at that front beam, it would be better describe as a wing, or maybe

beam-a-wing

BAR's different boats


 
Posted : October 6, 2015 3:56 pm
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I'm not buying that, and not just because I've had sponsors (yes, mine were just placed on as plain logos, so I realize that there is some amount of pot and kettle here). But, looking at the other recent teams, and the fact that the LR name is used on the boat without the oval, they could have done something (anything) to make that look better.

Mike


 
Posted : October 6, 2015 9:19 pm
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The Land Rover name maybe on the hull without the oval, but it is corporate (bonnet) font!!! He who pays the bills calls the shots.


 
Posted : October 8, 2015 2:31 am
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Dust off the 72s Larry.


 
Posted : October 10, 2015 9:36 pm
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freakin' hilarious

Go Larry!


 
Posted : October 12, 2015 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
freakin' hilarious

Go Larry!

I saw that a couple of months ago - it should be no surprise that one of the guys running the race is in marketing. That's pretty smart.


 
Posted : October 12, 2015 5:56 pm
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They should call out the Frenchies... This is their sort of thing.

The Texel champs, too!


 
Posted : October 13, 2015 3:52 pm
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
They should call out the Frenchies... This is their sort of thing.

The Texel champs, too!

Texel... please! That's a freaking beach party with a little sailing thrown in to break up the day. The archipelago boys and girls are who they want, they want people that are totally into pain and misery.


 
Posted : October 13, 2015 6:08 pm
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