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MaryAWells
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1st race Thursday:
Pretty clean start, a couple over-early's, but don't know who they are yet.

Wind is 10-12 knots, not much chop, not much kelp today. Great sailing conditions.

Here are the positions the second time around the weather mark:

1. Ashby
2. Guck
3. Hoekstra
4. Scotty Anderson
5. Bieke
6. Philpott
7. Dubois
8. Drummond
9. Callabria
10. Daniel
11. Cope
12. Booth
13. Melvin
14. Ogletree


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 11:39 am
MaryAWells
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OKAY, finish positions for the first race on Thursday:

1. Ashby
2. Guck
3. Hoekstra
4. Scotty Anderson
5. Bieke
6. Bieke
7. Dubois
8. Callabria
9. Booth
10. Melvin
11. Daniel
12. Cope
13. Drummond
14. Philpott
15. Atkins
16. Ogletree
17. Landenberger
18. Kinder
19. Erik Andersson
20. Gaynor

And the overall positions after 6 races as roughly calculated by Rick out on the course, including the one throwout:

1. Guck, 8 points
1. Ashby, 8 points
3. Melvin, 19 points
4. Booth, 32 points
5. Dubois, 35 points
6. Ogletree, 42 points
7. Scotty Anderson, 44 points
8. Philpott, 56 points
9. Kinder, 63 points
10. Landenberger, 64 points
10. Callabria, 64 points
12. Daniel, 66 points

Stay tuned for the second race.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 12:06 pm
Jake Kohl
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wow - that's a nail biter!


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 12:50 pm
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I think some said that Friday's forcast is for 2o to 25... this might be the deciding race

Remember Asby won every race of the last worlds... Lars won every race at the North Americans.

True heavy weights!


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 12:59 pm
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If they end up tied, will they then bring back in the score for their -throw out- races? Or do they keep the throw outs, and look at who beat whom, last?


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 1:02 pm
 Trey
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The guy that had the most bullets wins if there is a tie.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 1:11 pm
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First you do a count back, most 1s then most 2s and if still tied after that its who won the last race.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 1:17 pm
MaryAWells
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Thursday, second race:
They had a general recall at the first start attempt.

Here are the positions at the last leeward gate, with only the last upwind and downwind finish legs to go:

1. Ashby
2. Dubois
3. Guck
4. Melvin
5. Scott Anderson
6. Ogletree
7. Booth
8. Hoekstra
9. Ben Moon, AUS
10. Landenberger
11. Daniel
12. Kinder
13. Callabria
14. Pease Glaser
15. Gaynor
16. Atkins
17. Ben Hall
18. Marstrom
19. Erik Andersson

Finish positions coming up soon.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 1:22 pm
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Ashby would love to keep that boat between them...Great stuff!


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 1:39 pm
MaryAWells
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Finish positions for the 2nd race on Thursday:

1. Ashby
2. Dubois
3. Guck
4. Melvin
5. Ogletree
6. Scotty Anderson
7. Booth
8. Ben Moon
9. Landenberger
10. Hoekstra
11. Daniel
12. Callabria
13. Pease Glaser
14. Kinder
15. Gaynor
16. Atkins
17. Philpott
18. Cope
19. Micky Todd,ESP
20. Saarberg
21. Smyth
22. Marstrom

Points for the top seven after seven races overall:
1. Ashby, 9 points
2. Guck, 11 points
3. Melvin, 23 points
4. Dubois, 37 points
5. Booth, 39 points
6. Ogletree, 47 points
7. Scotty Anderson, 50 points


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 1:45 pm
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great stuff ! heat is on for 18-20 knts wind tomorrow!
Lars has to take some risks ......
This will be an awesome fight!


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 1:55 pm
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Great stuff! Lars has to take some risks tomorrow....
18-20 knts wind > gonna be an awesome fight ....


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 1:59 pm
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Just curious, How come only two races a day? Is it a logistical issue with a 100 boats. From Marys post it seems they are done racing for the day by 1pm. Why not 4 races in a day if the conditions are good?


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 2:23 pm
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Would you play four halves of basketball a day at the champinoship level?

The class rules spec this out. The tornado's also do two races a day at the championship level


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 2:59 pm
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I didn't know the bows could be hacked off of these boats with a dagger board like that. Anyone got pix and the story of that poor boat? Didn't have my camera. Must have been a frustrating day on the water.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 3:48 pm
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I didn't know the bows could be hacked off of these boats with a dagger board like that. Anyone got pix and the story of that poor boat? Didn't have my camera. Must have been a frustrating day on the water.

heh? Do tell.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 4:16 pm
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Stand by Jake, someone will post something. The story I heard was pretty good. Apparently someone got angry and hacked the bow off of their boat with the DB.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 4:44 pm
Jake Kohl
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Stand by Jake, someone will post something. The story I heard was pretty good. Apparently someone got angry and hacked the bow off of their boat with the DB.

Wow...now THAT's a temper tantrum.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 4:47 pm
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It's in the rule book, it came with your USSailing membership.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 4:51 pm
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Holy chalupa... Can you say 69!!!

(EDIT: I hope it was his own boat at least...)

Mike


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 6:07 pm
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I didn't know the bows could be hacked off of these boats with a dagger board like that. Anyone got pix and the story of that poor boat? Didn't have my camera. Must have been a frustrating day on the water.

WHAT? Was this a temper tantrum or did it happen during the racing?


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 6:31 pm
soulcat01
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I only heard the story and saw the aftermath. I heard it was on the beach. The story will hit the surface, just wait. Everyone's being cool about it.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 7:21 pm
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You mean he/she got mad and hit their own boat, thus removing the bow? Or were they trying to

modify

the bows in an attempt to gain some speed? I find it hard to believe that anyone would cut the bows off their own boat on purpose! <img src=

alt=

/> These things are not cheap!


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 7:32 pm
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I only heard the story and saw the aftermath. I heard it was on the beach. The story will hit the surface, just wait. Everyone's being cool about it.

Come on; spill the beans !


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 7:33 pm
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You mean he/she got mad and hit their own boat, thus removing the bow?

Yep. With the Dagger Board. Thats all I'm saying.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 8:10 pm
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Wow. And what did that accomplish? I've got 4 kids and if any one of them ever did something like that...well, it would be quite a while before they ever sailed again.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 8:30 pm
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Great stuff! Lars has to take some risks tomorrow....
18-20 knts wind > gonna be an awesome fight ....

I don't know what Lars sails in normaly, but when I raced against Glenn in similar conditions 2 saturdays ago (the day before he flew to the U.S.) he cleaned up easily lapping some of the fleet. By the way he did 4 races in a afternoon, none of this pussy 2 race stuff <img src=

alt=

/>.

Bring it on, when the going gets tuff Glenn gets going <img src=

alt=

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Posted : November 15, 2007 9:43 pm
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YOU WANT THE BEANS?
Here goes.
I am Steve Clark, some of you may associate my name with C Class Catamarans, Vanguard and other sailing endeavours over the years. I have been racing at a fairly serious level for most of my life. I have even won a world championship or two.
The boat I just chopped into is one that I built. I can fix it if I want to. I can also take the parts off, throw it in a dumpster, and build new hulls in very short order. I am not going to defraud an insurance company lie about what I did and why. I was pissed off and took it out on the hull of my boat that had just been holed competitor who had violated rule 18.2c. He tried to turn inside me at a leeward mark where he had no rights ( did not have an overlap at two boatlengths) and where he did not have room to complete the turn. He was yelling at me

what the f... are you doing

when his bows went through my topsides. I was, quite obviously rounding the leeward mark and avoiding the two overlapped boats in front of me upon which I had no rights. The situation seemed pretty obvious to me and I got a little exercised by this guy acting like it was my fault that he rammed into me and holed my boat. My regatta was over, I had been fouled 3 times in two races, and I was wound a bit too tight for anybodies good.
So I vented, I'm not particularly proud of myself, but my anger only hurts me.
And Timbo, I have 3 kids. If they behaved like some of the sailors on this race track, they would be going without dinner for a while. The ethics of some of these people would not stand close scrutiny. This has been commented on more than once by BJsailor in his event writeups. The a member of the international jury has said they have never seen a fleet with worse grasp of the Racing Rules of Sailing.
If my kids melted down like I just did, I would guess that they would have to do what I am doing, be honest about it and go sailing when you have fixed the boat.
Steve Clark


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 9:49 pm
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Steve, sorry to hear about the situation down there but at least you were man enough to tell us, good on you. Bad on the guy who rammed you from behind. Did he get tossed? I know I've been frustrated enough to do some stupid things sometimes, I just can't afford to rebuild my boat! But I might have been tempted to remove HIS bows with my daggerboard! <img src=

alt=

/>


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 9:56 pm
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Bravo Steve for telling us what happened. You made what you consider a mistake and are manning up to it. Sometimes mistakes resolved are worth as much as not making it in the first place.


 
Posted : November 15, 2007 10:16 pm
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