oh dear lord. Everyone OK?
apparently all ok
wing and platform
not so good
more and more both are looking unrepairable
2nd boat can't be launched until feb2013
looks like they shouldn't have dumped the original requirement for a big and small wing
Wanna bet there'll be a Hobie Bob on the top of the next wing. <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />
wing and platform
not so good
more and more both are looking unrepairable
2nd boat can't be launched until feb2013
looks like they shouldn't have dumped the original requirement for a big and small wing
I understand the wing being beyond repair, but the platform too?
At least this newscaster has the presence to call it a
pitchpole
An hour of sad helicopter video footage.
wing and platform
not so good
more and more both are looking unrepairable
2nd boat can't be launched until feb2013
looks like they shouldn't have dumped the original requirement for a big and small wing
I understand the wing being beyond repair, but the platform too?
I have not seen how the righted it, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's how te platform got damaged badly. They also said it was badly damamged from foiling.
It made it back to the dock turtled,never was righted, so it's a safe bet the wing is a complete loss. I was at least hoping they could save the spar.
All of you have to know it was inevitable. You can't push the development edge that hard without some consequences.
wonder if larger T-foils on the rudders would have helped.
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I can't imagine what it feels like to go from sitting on the aft part of the boat then rise to 40-50'(est) while the transoms are lifting in the air ...
A lot of gory detail, as far as wing breakage in this one.
Total shame but not really unexpected. Great thing no one was seriously injured. Think I might get some helmets for those 20kt+ days on the F18/N20.
I'm surprised a little more wasn't done to slow the drift and prevent more damage to the platform? Oracle are the experts for sure and hindsight is 20/20 but maybe ditching the wing and at least righting the platform would have been a good way to get back on the water faster? Sounds like v2 is already in build so maybe not?
I'm surprised a little more wasn't done to slow the drift and prevent more damage to the platform? Oracle are the experts for sure and hindsight is 20/20 but maybe ditching the wing and at least righting the platform would have been a good way to get back on the water faster? Sounds like v2 is already in build so maybe not?
Once you ditch the wing you're not righting that platform without a bigass crane. The wing filling with water was what most likely kept them from righting in the first place. There were not many ways to do it different and accomplish anything. Faster righting before the wing filled is about it, and the current seemed to prevent that.
No drift Sam. There's a HUGE tide current there.
Thanks for the clarification guys. Lee I'm aware of the tidal based current flows in San Fran, just surprised they didn't motor against it but given the problems Cat_Fever outlined that wouldn't have worked.
What are the bets on seeing this thing fly again?
Don't forget that the outgoing
tide
carrries the entire contents of the Sacramento River as well.
Once outside the Bridge you face the wrath of the entire north Pacific. The north shoal of the outer mouth of the GG is called the Potato Patch. Relativly shallow water, only 25-35 feet deep, makes a tough place to turtle a 131' mast. Huge swells can pump up waves in the 30 foot range but are themselves torn to shreds by the huge current.
Notice the condition of the AC72 right after the flip (pretty clean), then again after and hour of being pounded. I'm surprised there's anything left. Typical day in SF...7 knots westbound outgoing current, 30+ knots of wind coming in from the west, all funneled through the narrow GG. Nice place to turn downwind on a 72 foot cat. Like Butch Cassidy said,
Who are those guys?
I thought they were supposed to learn not to do that, when they were flipping the 45's!
Did they think the much taller mast would be less prone to burry the bows and pitch-pole?
I'm thinking they need more volume in the bows unless they are going to limit the upper wind strength for racing.
Perhaps they should all go back to the AC45's. Plenty of action on the proven design. Also, would allow more teams to take part.
ah, google Larry Ellison. He has almost more money than god. It'll be on the water again ricky-tick I'm sure.
Hell, a local company just spent $31m on an Oracle product, so that should help.
They are not allowed to launch the 2nd boat before February next year, and the 2nd wing wont be ready by Christmas apparently.
Your fascination with poo is disturbing.
BWAHAHAHAHA! That avatar is high-larious!
Funniest one I've seen!
I would watch that as an Olympic sport. Especially if they toilets were set up like hurdles.
Sorry but multihulls pitchpole and break their riggs eversince... its just bad luck if you, me, Oracle or someone else will be the next one day 😉 Here it looks to me as if the recovery and the counteraction to not let the mast, wing go down was too slow. Maybe they had just no idea, never planned that?
do you think the foils may have hurt the hull's ability to recover from the nose-dive during the turn down?
Since those things aren't adjustable, I would figure at some point the foils were actually trying to dive for lobster along with the bows...
And having 131 feet of wing pushing didn't help, either...
Since those things aren't adjustable, I would figure at some point the foils were actually trying to dive for lobster along with the bows...
And having 131 feet of wing pushing didn't help, either...
Those foils must have had incredible loads on them during that event...and you would think that when those lifting boards point to the bottom that they drive harder to the bottom. I heard mention that the foil loads tore up the hulls during that dive and they didn't even know if the hulls were repairable.