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Alter Cup - Pick Your Horse

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(@Anonymous 13274)
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I do this every year and I love watching the pre-regatta internet racing. I've never seen anyone nail it yet, but you never know... maybe someone will guess right this time! <img src=

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Alter Cup is on the US SAILING home page today and 17 of the 20 teams are registered. Gulfport Yacht Club is rearing to go - another work-party weekend is going on right now. Final prep by Fun in the Sun and AHPC is underway. SeaBreeze Manor, the B&B across the street from the race site is fully booked with sailors. There was considerable chest-puffing at Spring Fever last weekend between the several teams present, quickly followed by the sound of beers being passed around and back-slapping.

So, take a gander at the list of registrants at http://www.ussailing.org/championships/adult/USMHC and pick your horse. As usual, this one-of-a-kind event is sure to surprise.

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Posted : March 29, 2008 11:53 am
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There are just too many good teams ! I don't think we can cover that many teams. The teams that own or have sailed a Capricorn should have an early advantage.


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 12:08 pm
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Wow! Going to be a great event with those teams! John, tell me I'm not out on a limb picking #9! This is going to be a good one for us fans! Good luck!


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 12:27 pm
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The teams that own or have sailed a Capricorn should have an early advantage.

You would think that, but it has rarely proven to be true at other events - Keith Christensen had never been on a Hobie 20 and won against a fleet of 20 sailors. John Casey'd never sailed an F16 before the practice day last year. You just never know... that's one thing I love about this event. I often say

the stars have to line up.

I have confidence in the boats and I think there will be fewer than average redress hearings, so we are more likely to see some seriously contended racing on the water. It is a pressure-cooker out there and there is only slightly less pressure on the beach. A week of that will see a true test of mettle. I'm buying pallets of Rolaids. <img src=

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Posted : March 29, 2008 12:37 pm
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There was considerable chest-puffing at Spring Fever last weekend between the several teams present, quickly followed by the sound of beers being passed around and back-slapping.

uhhh...did I miss something? Only thing I witnessed was jeering towards the previous Alter Cup Champs and something about a

squirrel

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I'm picking a repeat!


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 12:38 pm
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I'm buying pallets of Rolaids. <img src=

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I guess Jake will be getting a truckload then <img src=

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Posted : March 29, 2008 12:41 pm
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How come so many Area D sailors?


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 1:46 pm
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I'm going to throw down for Tomko and Billings. Those two have been sailing F18 together for a few years now and are an awesome combination.

Chris.


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 1:57 pm
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How come so many Area D sailors?

There's no denying Area D is tough, but I agree that it looks a little lopsided. I think it has a lot to do with the quality of the Qualifiers - when I was in Jake's job, my biggest failing was getting the Area Reps some formalized guidance on building a consistent ladder for the Championship. As an Area Rep, I was able to put together a really good team to build up the Qualifier from a last-minute three-boat race 10 years ago to a consistently well-run, very competitive 20-30 boat regatta stuffed with former champions and serious contenders as well as newer teams that turn out for the quality racing at great venues. Area D almost always gets an extra slot at the Championship now because they have the largest ladder event. Second- and even third-place finishers are almost always assured a berth at the finals. Things were going so well that we split Area D into North and South.

The down side is still there, though. Areas A and B were combined for the ladder - participation there has fallen off so much that only one boat sailed both days of the event. The idea was that combining the Areas would foster greater participation, but the opposite has happened. There are two great guys working together to turn that around - Chris Titcomb and Tom Siders. But it takes a couple of years to get the confidence of the fleet back and build the event into something that regional clubs fight over hosting. Other Areas that had been declining are seeing things turn around, too. It just takes some cooperation between sailors that have a common desire for a quality event.

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Posted : March 29, 2008 2:12 pm
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Trivia! Where was the picture of the Alter Cup at the top of this thread taken? What was the Alter Cup boat sailed at that venue? Who won?

Who wants to start guessing what the 2009 boat will be? <img src=

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Posted : March 29, 2008 2:24 pm
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Who wants to start guessing what the 2009 boat will be? <img src=

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Extreme 40s? <img src=

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(Wouldnt that be cool!)


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 2:25 pm
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AHPC Viper? although that would be 2 AHPCs in a row. Have them do it anyway <img src=

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seems like it would be Hobie's turn.


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 2:33 pm
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Roton Point 2004, Mike Montague & Kathy Ward
How about Weta's for next year?!?


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 3:37 pm
Jake Kohl
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How come so many Area D sailors?

Two things are contributing to that; this year we've changed some of the selection criteria that allows the largest qualifier to send TWO teams instead of one. This is to give more incentive for you guys to get the area qualifiers sizes up AND make it so that you don't just have to win to get into the Championship. Area D-south had the largest qualifier in the country and is sending their top 2 teams. Reason 2; two petition slots were elected by the Multihull Championship Committee from Area D. The petitions received, by a LARGE majority, were sailors from Area D. ANYONE can petition and you never know how the voting will go.


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 3:41 pm
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Well done, Todd! I'll personally get you a shirt from the event this year and send it up as your prize. <img src=

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Posted : March 29, 2008 3:42 pm
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SWEET! can I trade it in for a event boat though?
I'm gonna have to put my money on Nigel and Alex...
and i'm gonna bring it to the next level by guessing the top 5 with J.C., Tomko, Mike Krantz, and Olli
It's going to be close between almost all of the competition though and there's plenty of guys that could mix it up!


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 4:11 pm
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Who wants to start guessing what the 2009 boat will be?

oOooh I think I know what it is, and I think that people are gonna like it <img src=

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Posted : March 29, 2008 5:23 pm
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Hobie Wave! It's about time the boat got the respect it deserves!


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 7:19 pm
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Cough it up... now I am curious.


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 7:25 pm
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Hobie Wave! It's about time the boat got the respect it deserves!

I think they always have a 2-up boat.


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 7:26 pm
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Hmm. I can't go with the incumbent team, too easy. I like Matt and Seth.


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 8:15 pm
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I think they always have a 2-up boat.

Patrick, nothing says it has to be a two-up boat. Why not the F31? <img src=

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Posted : March 29, 2008 8:19 pm
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Brandon Wallace will be very tough. Is James sailing with him?

Too bad Matt Struble did not decide to participate, as my choice would be very easy if he had!


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 9:17 pm
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Yes yes, WF. We know. But I don't think Matt is looking to go slower than he has been lately. <img src=

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Catsup, buddy. Brandon is sailing with Damon LaCasella on the F18 these days. Jamie only comes out of retirement when the black boat is on the water.


 
Posted : March 29, 2008 10:06 pm
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Did I see correctly....Nine teams from area D?


 
Posted : March 30, 2008 9:33 am
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Have you guys forgotten who just won the F18 class at Lake Hartwell? You think Alex and Nigel won't be the team to beat?


 
Posted : March 30, 2008 9:37 am
Jake Kohl
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Did I see correctly....Nine teams from area D?

Yeeeeaaahhh..but I need to clean that up. Two are the Hobie and Nacra teams (selected by the manufacturers, three are from petitions...It was up to the sailors to put in that information in the registration and it's not completely accurate. I'll clean up the origins of the teams to give a better picture.


 
Posted : March 30, 2008 9:53 am
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I think they always have a 2-up boat.

Patrick, nothing says it has to be a two-up boat. Why not the F31? <img src=

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Now that would be an Alter Cup. Heck just the parties alone would be worth the price of admission.


 
Posted : March 30, 2008 10:08 am
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Hey, why can't you do an F31 two-up? People go around the world singlehanded on boats two or three times that size.

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Posted : March 30, 2008 10:14 am
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A two-up F31 means there's nobody making sandwiches (Grey Poupon?) and nobody to set the blender on

crush.

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Flame on, you bus drivers! LOL!


 
Posted : March 30, 2008 10:18 am
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