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PTP:

Thank you! I like the pics.

Dan


 
Posted : March 21, 2006 9:06 pm
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I thought I would recalc without the last race to see if the Team of Nigel and Alex were on top. They are because of tie breakers. They have 2 firsts and Casey/Pierce only one.
[Linked Image]


 
Posted : March 21, 2006 9:28 pm
Jake Kohl
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PTP - I put the pictures you gave me this afternoon up at the team seacats flickr gallery (I hope you don't mind). There are some great shots in there! Actually, they are still uploading but thanks to the high speed connection provided by PBYC, it shouldn't take much longer.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamseacats/


 
Posted : March 21, 2006 9:55 pm
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Jake,
Thats great. Thanks. I will burn another CD today from today. Good stuff- better than yesterday. I went through and actually deleted a lot from yesterday because of the pics I got today. I do have some vids but don't know how to post them. I did feel like i had the death cam because I would be filiming someone and over they would go! There is a very good video of a crew almost pitchpoling then almost capsizing but recovering- since the windward mark was near the shore after the change you could hear the cheers from shore as they regained control

p.s. Jake.. are you "Beach Beach" ?


 
Posted : March 21, 2006 10:28 pm
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Nice pics everybody! Thanks. Keep them coming....


 
Posted : March 21, 2006 10:59 pm
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Thanks PTP

Nice pics of the chick boat and the mark

how bout some race reports, huh??


 
Posted : March 21, 2006 11:04 pm
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did Krantz fall overboard or did he just feel like he needed a nice swim?

also, I'd like to say that the Nacra 20 is one fine-looking boat when its carving up the water.


 
Posted : March 21, 2006 11:17 pm
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Fine looking and unforgiving

just like a...............

nice form, eh!

don't you wish, ah forget it


 
Posted : March 21, 2006 11:54 pm
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Is it an optical illusion, or are the hulls "wracking" a lot in the above picture?


 
Posted : March 22, 2006 8:44 am
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In Tom Korz Pivture Post:
What kinda boom is that on there? Is that standard now a days? I haven't had a chance to check out all the pics, so maybe this is one of them. If it is one of the Alter Cup boats, is that boom different?


 
Posted : March 22, 2006 8:51 am
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Is it an optical illusion, or are the hulls "wracking" a lot in the above picture?

That's just an optical illusion - what you don't see is the leeward bow underwater.

The boom is a round extrusion - which is something new from Performance Catamarans. Several booms were bent during capsizes in the breeze on Monday and we had to replace several of them with the old-style rectangular boom.


 
Posted : March 22, 2006 9:13 am
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so would you say jake... ixnay on the tube booms?


 
Posted : March 22, 2006 9:27 am
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Thanks Jake,

Is the round extusion aluminum? It appears black in the picture? Do you know if this a class approved change?


 
Posted : March 22, 2006 10:01 am
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This is Krantz. I got bored and decided to try out the Newkirk body surfing technique. Kirk does it the easy way offshore with a steady breeze, I upped the difficulty factor by overstanding and coming into A mark on port...

Monday had some nuclear puffs. Dave and I pitched it 3 times in one leg. At one point I counted half the fleet upside down. Yesterday, we got caught outside a 90 degree shift and went from 3rd to 10th. Then the wind built and and racing was canceled for the day. Today we're under postponement this morning waiting for it lay down some. Dave and I ate our wheaties, we're ready to race...


 
Posted : March 22, 2006 11:04 am
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so would you say jake... ixnay on the tube booms?

I wouldn't say...although we have not had any break from sheet pressure. They are aluminum with black anodizing. They are a bit lighter than the original boom.


 
Posted : March 22, 2006 7:46 pm
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I think ya'll are posting records for number of pitchpoles in a Nacra 20 in a regatta!


 
Posted : March 22, 2006 8:30 pm
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I would almost expect that to be the case at this event regardless of what boat is used.

High gusty winds, steep choppy seas, and experienced sailors who regularly push the performance envelope on boat design.

Also, throw in the fact there are no chicken lines, footstraps, or even non-skid (other than factory spec) strips.

I would venture a guess that sailors used to using chicken lines, footstraps, etc. are used to driving the boats this hard, but NOT used to sliding all over them when the boat stuffs into the back of a big wave, or gets slammed with a huge puff with the spin up.

I'm interested to find out why there have been a few booms break during pitchpoles, but no spin poles/snuffers (of course, I'm not there so I don't know if this is the case). Did the crew hit the boom during the maneuver?

I could see a 170+ lb person striking the boom (under heavy mainsheet tension) on the side during a capsize/pitchpole causing major problems....


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 9:03 am
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More photos from PTP are uploaded on our photo area at http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamseacats/


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 10:10 am
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I also uploaded some superb short movies again graciously provided by PTP. I put them up here: link . I think it was '812' that showed Daniel nearly pitchpoling. Thanks again Patrick!

(at this moment they're still uploading and I've got to head to the beach...give it a little bit).


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 10:25 am
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I put them up here: link . I think it was '812' that showed Daniel nearly pitchpoling.

Get a "403 Forbidden" message.


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 10:32 am
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It's because they are STILL uploading. I don't know how much longer it will be because I'm doing it through a website instead of my FTP software. It's 160Mb worth of movies and apparently this connection is pretty asymetrical.


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 11:26 am
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Me too!

Fire the webguy!

Off with his head!


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 11:38 am
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Hey Jake,

How bout an update on the Break last night


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 12:19 pm
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I got a couple of them uploaded...and changed the folder permission so you can browse the index. Try it again (a couple of really good ones are uploading now...790, 791, and 812.


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 2:09 pm
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Its Over

Only Two Races

Robbie Daniel & Hunter (the break dancer) Stunzi win the Alter Cup "alledgedly"

Robbie/Hunter
Alex/Nigel
Greg T/Jacques
JC/Kenny
J Tomko/Ian
Bob Curry/Brett
Ollie/Kelly
Jeff Newsome/Peter
Susan Korz/Kevin Smith
Captain Kirk/Holmes

Provisional and unofficial

If you see this man THANK HIM!!!!

He said he's gonna go racin now!!


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 4:32 pm
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Nice movies Jake. Thanks!!


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 5:06 pm
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More photos are uploading courtesy of PTP! (they're uploading now so it will take a little bit).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/teamseacats/


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 5:29 pm
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I said... DAMN!!! I'm good!
Movie 791 is my favorite.. too bad I didn't get it from the start!

check 1010771 and 790 nice...
Jake, check 1010793 - they loved the course so much they wanted to take the mark with them!

and last one.. sorry from day 2 1010488


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 7:49 pm
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PTP,

Undoubtedly...you have taken some great material there! I do want you to know, however, that I hope to never have your "bad luck magic wand" pointed in my direction!

PS...one of your shots will likely be on the front page of US Sailing tonight. Actually....I just checked and it's there already. GREAT shot of the winners from Day 2!

www.ussailing.org


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 10:58 pm
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A near miss with a committee boat. This is Nelson/Hall with the yellow spinnaker and Tomko was to the outside...watch the helm twitch closely as Tomko changed his mind a couple of times about how to get around Nelson and the committee boat.

(right click and "save as")....
http://www.teamseacats.com/alter/good.mov


 
Posted : March 23, 2006 11:45 pm
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