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America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday

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Jake Kohl
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we're set to go for race #2 on Sunday. The weather is actually looking quite good. The forecast shows a sustained 20+ far offshore but with a steadily decreasing wind speed as you approach the coast. By 1pm the wind drops to 16 or so all around the race course area - again with the near shore wind being less. Given that this will be an equilateral triangle course (13 mile legs with the first to windward), I think we might again see a delayed start since the course will take them roughly 13 to 15 miles offshore. The only variable is sea state - the wind will have been blowing in excess of 20k offshore for quite some time.

Go the Wing!


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 11:52 am
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Jake, what is your weather source?
This what Windguru has to say about tomorrow:


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 12:04 pm
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windfinder. I believe the forecast you attached is for shore. Just a few miles offshore and things change dramatically near Valencia

http://www.windfinder.com/forecasts/wind_iberia33.htm

And here's a map you can click through a sequence of graphical forecasts:
http://www.windfinder.com/forecasts/wind_iberia_animation.htm

For distance scale, the distance from the point south of Valencia to the first of the Balearic Islands (the first small one) is about 40 miles.


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 12:16 pm
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Windfinder uses GFS which is not too reliable, combining the forecast for Ibizi and Valancia I'd guess about NNE-10-15 knots.
Start wont be before noon local anyway.


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 1:01 pm
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Indeed Windfinder is not the best source, but thez have at least the closest station: Valencia Boya
http://www.windfinder.com/report/valencia_buoy
After the predicted change in wind direction at noon, the wind drops to Alinghi (maybe) favourable conditions, but I guess that the northern winds will leave a lot of swell and this could cause a postponement again...


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 1:13 pm
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Anyone know what the scheduled start time is for Race 2?


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 4:58 pm
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no signal before 1154 CET.


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 6:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Smiths_Cat
Indeed Windfinder is not the best source, but thez have at least the closest station: Valencia Boya
http://www.windfinder.com/report/valencia_buoy
After the predicted change in wind direction at noon, the wind drops to Alinghi (maybe) favourable conditions, but I guess that the northern winds will leave a lot of swell and this could cause a postponement again...

I don't think that Alingi has favorable conditions.


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 6:27 pm
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Originally Posted by JACKFLASH
I don't think that Alingi has favorable conditions.

As much as I want BMWO to clean their clock... I don't know that in a light air race that they would not be much closer in performance.


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 6:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Undecided
no signal before 1154 CET.

Thanks.


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 7:00 pm
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New story up on my site
JohnCaseyWorldwide
Mute the old guard and turn up our volume. Genny knows match racing and you all know my specialty. We had a great Virtual Eye interview that is used to do all of the race tracking etc. and they downloaded it on my laptop, so now we also have all of the real time info!


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 7:06 pm
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I"ve noticed the cute cartoons from A have stopped.


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 7:49 pm
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Originally Posted by DUH
New story up on my site
JohnCaseyWorldwide
Mute the old guard and turn up our volume. Genny knows match racing and you all know my specialty. We had a great Virtual Eye interview that is used to do all of the race tracking etc. and they downloaded it on my laptop, so now we also have all of the real time info!

Ahhhh...now lets see more of that please!


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 8:38 pm
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Originally Posted by scooby_simon
Originally Posted by Undecided
no signal before 1154 CET.

Thanks.

So what time is that Central time? 5:54am?

Doug


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 10:59 pm
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What is

CET

. or better yet, what is it relation to GMT?


 
Posted : February 13, 2010 11:02 pm
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take off one hour to get GMT


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 4:48 am
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Originally Posted by TEAMVMG
take off one hour to get GMT

Paul

Not quite. Well in the summer anyway

Currently GMT(Zulu) is 09:23. BUT the whole of the northernm hemi is (I assume) on Summer time and so +1; Current UK time is 10:23; CET is CURRENT UK plus 1; so it's currently 11:23 in Valencia.

GMT never changes; local time; where daylight saving, or summer time is used may.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 5:25 am
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Originally Posted by scooby_simon
Originally Posted by TEAMVMG
take off one hour to get GMT

Paul

Not quite. Well in the summer anyway

Currently GMT(Zulu) is 09:23. BUT the whole of the northernm hemi is (I assume) on Summer time and so +1; Current UK time is 10:23; CET is CURRENT UK plus 1; so it's currently 11:23 in Valencia.

GMT never changes; local time; where daylight saving, or summer time is used may.

Simon, you have to check which day you are on overthere in the UK but we are definitely NOT on summer time!
Current time in Valencia right now is GMT+1: 11:31
http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 5:31 am
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Valencia time clock here - live count down of time.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=325


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 5:49 am
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Me stoopid. Sorry chaps not much sleep last night. Must be dreaming it's summer so I am better and can sail sand race again.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 6:53 am
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fuckin delays.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 7:04 am
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For the multihull side of the sailing spectrum I dont see how BMWOs win will do us any good.
Ellison already said that his view of the future is scaled up RC44s (RC88??), that just sounds like a bad joke to me.
No I think that the guy selling overpriced handbags will get back into the game and they will go back to reducing the AC to another match racing series in slow boats between posh yachtclubs.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by Tony_F18
For the multihull side of the sailing spectrum I dont see how BMWOs win will do us any good.
Ellison already said that his view of the future is scaled up RC44s (RC88??), that just sounds like a bad joke to me.
No I think that the guy selling overpriced handbags will get back into the game and they will go back to reducing the AC to another match racing series in slow boats between posh yachtclubs.

Until BWMO looses the cup, then comes another DoG match and Zilla gets rolled out of the shed again. (Wishful thinking)


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 7:19 am
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Why does the BMWO show sound like they record it in the bathroom?


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 7:27 am
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<****.

Any starting time announced so far?


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 7:41 am
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From Dee Caffari's twitter:

Well if the 33ACup does not get the show on the road by 1500hrs CET then Eurosport are out of there.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 7:50 am
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from SA:

Quote
Race committee is 'Optimistic" and prepared to wait until 4:30pm if necessary

 
Posted : February 14, 2010 8:03 am
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Genny on SA just said the limit it 14:30, but I think she is wrong.
What was the starttime on friday?


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 8:14 am
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I think it was about 14:30 IIRC.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 8:20 am
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14:20
Improved a little again at 090 degrees direction 6 knots at the committee boat. And the race committee are now reported to be clearing the possible start area, asking spectator and media boats to move.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 8:25 am
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