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America's Cup Race #2 on Sunday

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Smiths_Cat
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protest retreated


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 12:47 pm
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Was that great or what!


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 12:50 pm
Tony_F18
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The upwind leg was amazing!


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 12:52 pm
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Last I heard Larry wants to do it on San Fransico Bay, have not heard what type of boats, but SF Bay is known for high winds and I'm not sure his wing mast will fit under the bridge, so I doubt it will be on Dogzilla, although I would love to see that thing go in 20 knots of breeze!


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 12:57 pm
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Last thing that I heard was lighter sportier mono's and a return to the proper format.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 1:04 pm
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Well done USA <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" /> Great spectacle.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 1:04 pm
Todd A. Hart
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West River Sailing gets a plug by Jobson. He said he wanted to come race an A at west river.Sounds like he has seen the error of his ways.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 1:23 pm
 Karl
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Pretty awesome first leg! *Yawn* for the rest though.

Doesn't look like either of these boat could handle much rougher water though. Hard to tell what the sea state was just because of the massive size of the boat throwing off perpective, but BMWO was really twisting, and Alinghi was really pitching going to weather. Makes me wonder how long they'd last in much more wind.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 1:29 pm
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Tim, do you still have the Jobson link? He and Smyth did a great job on ESPN360. We should all send a thank you.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 1:57 pm
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All F18s now being offered with an optional wing upgrade package... if you have to ask how much, you can't afford it. <img src="<>/shocked.gif" alt="shocked" title="shocked" height="15" width="15" />


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 2:12 pm
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http://www.jobsonsailing.com/


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 2:12 pm
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Congrats BMWO

Well deserved win.

Wouter


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 2:17 pm
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So...should we all be looking into building wings? ;^)

I would like to see Ben Halls get more on the water testing, maybe with a taper towards the top like BMWO's, maybe a mid wing slot with a better camber adjusting system?


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 2:21 pm
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if you were listening to Randy, the cheaper yet effective next step up in performance is the curved daggerboards.
and I'd guess the ability to

Cant the rig

would be another performance enhancing mod that might be applicable to a boat that joe sixpack could someday hope to afford.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 2:32 pm
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Unfortunately my internet provider did not allow me to listen to ESPN360.

I would have loved to have heard what Randy had to say.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 2:36 pm
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I think you can get it on Jobson's site now...

Oops - not yet. Pretty sure you'll be able to later.

Cat guys are headed to ABYC later for beers and a replay.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 2:39 pm
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I was really quite amazed by the errors in judgment by Team Alinghi.
I mean Really, drawing fouls in BOTH races prior to the start ?

but then, I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised given the errors in judgment EB made off the water.

I am reminded of a couple of life's little truisms,

The lawyer that represents himself has a fool for a client

I Think EB should have let someone else drive the boat.

and

Absolute power corrupts absolutely

I think that EB has so much money and so much power that there was no one in his circle of familiars that could make him see that he was making SERIOUS errors in judgment.

Forcing it to a DoG match = Error
Losing in court time after time = Error x 11 at last count
Failing to upgrade to a wing = Error
Helming and judgment errors on the water = Error X at LEAST 3 or 4 that were obvious even to me.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 2:42 pm
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Thanks JW.

Have one on me...

OH... and don't forget it's Valentine's Day!

If Mamma ain't happy, nobody's happy!

I already filled that square yesterday, so I could sit at the computer for hours today, watching the match.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 2:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Thanks JW.
Have one on me...
OH... and don't forget it's Valentine's Day!
If Mamma ain't happy, nobody's happy!
I already filled that square yesterday, so I could sit at the computer for hours today, watching the match.

Me too, Dinner, Movie, Flowers, Candy and a Card.
She even sat and watched most of it with me this morning.
:::::Sigh::::: Life is Goooooooood.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 2:45 pm
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I wonder if the 360 commentaries will be available? Can somebody post if they become avaiable?

Email sent to Gary:

Mr. Jobson,

I hear that you and Randy did an outstanding job on your commentary for the America's Cup races. Unfortunately my ISP does not carry the ESP 360 broadcast and I had to listen to the Official AC33 commentary. Are there plans to make your commentary available to the general public? I would be very interested in obtaining a copy of the broadcast, as I know others would from the blogs on the Cat Sailor forum.

Regards,

Mike Shappell


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 6:14 pm
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Mamma sat with me watching the race today - and was as enthralled with it as I was - well almost <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />

Tim, your cousin is on the Sailing Club committee with me this year - her maiden name is Bohan, and her father is from Carrick on Shannon !


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Dermot
Mamma sat with me watching the race today - and was as enthralled with it as I was - well almost <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />

...and mine did as well.

Here is where I'll throw in a huge

thank you

to Jake for piquing my interest in something I previously had absolutely none.
Thanks Jake for your hours of posts, glad the racing turned out so damned exciting. <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 6:47 pm
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Dermot, tell her I said HI! And you can give her my email too, maybe we are cousins for real?

One of my 3 sisters did go over to visit the homeland back about 20 years ago, and she did find some of our cousins in Carrick, so ask her if she met a Jannet Bohan back then.

Thanks!

Time for a Guinness I think...


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 7:15 pm
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My wife slammed the door to my office when I was watching it because I was yelling at the damn computer screen. I was soo worked up over this event and I've never wanted a team to win so badly as I wanted BMWO to win this one - if nothing else than to just stop the lawyering.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 7:33 pm
Todd A. Hart
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SNG race committee goes on strike against start.Anybody else hear about this. Just reiterates the entitlement Alinghi thought they had. Scroll to Part 59.
http://bit.ly/b32KXU #


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 8:05 pm
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I just read that it is hard to believe. I did see some cameras on Bennentt in the RC boat and he was pushing the them away a little before the start


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 8:21 pm
Todd A. Hart
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Yep,
I saw that too. I figured he was just stressed because of normal race decisions,now I know why.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Last I heard Larry wants to do it on San Fransico Bay, have not heard what type of boats, but SF Bay is known for high winds and I'm not sure his wing mast will fit under the bridge, so I doubt it will be on Dogzilla, although I would love to see that thing go in 20 knots of breeze!

The San Francisco Bay is one of the best sailing arenas anywhere, for both sailors and spectators. I really hope the Cup comes; it would be a real treat and allow more spectating than any other venue I can recall.

High winds

are a relative thing--Summer afternoons to see 25+, nasty currents and square wave in the Slot. Many different types of boats--especially in the hands of pro sailors--would do just fine. Conditions in the Fall and Spring are often more moderate, both in terms of air temp and breeze. GGYC would be a great place to bring it home too.


 
Posted : February 14, 2010 11:06 pm
Jake Kohl
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Did you guys hear this!? SNG's race

committee

aboard the PRO / start boat refused to start the race yesterday citing that the waves were over 1M. Harold Bennett, PRO, enlisted Tom Ehman (BMWO's representative on the boat) and the security officer on the boat to hoist the flags while Bennett ran the start clock while SNG's people refused to start the race.

http://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/


 
Posted : February 15, 2010 8:27 am
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
SNG race committee goes on strike against start.Anybody else hear about this. Just reiterates the entitlement Alinghi thought they had. Scroll to Part 59.
http://bit.ly/b32KXU #

Jake

I guess you missed Todd's post about 4 above yours. Are you skim reading again ?


 
Posted : February 15, 2010 8:32 am
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