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Todd A. Hart
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Now that you've gotten fired up by the AC check out the real show. C Class preview


 
Posted : September 22, 2013 6:04 pm
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Live Feed of C class worlds. Live feed


 
Posted : September 22, 2013 9:36 pm
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Today's live feed on now.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-world-s-most-advanced-sailing-catamarans


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 8:16 am
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Had a quick peek at work but those things are fast!


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 8:28 am
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Is there replay available anywhere?


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 8:31 am
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It's still live, but replay will probably be on the Front Page of SA and will def. be in the C class thread in multihull section of SA.


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 9:40 am
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Results from the first day: http://www.restronguetsc.org/results/2013/c-class/ICC%20Challenge%20Results.html


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 2:39 pm
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Where is the main info on the event? Why did several competitors not compete (and why is Fred Eaton listed as crew on there twice?).


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 2:58 pm
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Fred Eaton isn't listed as crew twice, he has two teams in the event.

Interview with the designers:
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/3916... ;utm_source=416772&utm_medium=social

Main website: http://theflyingboats.com/

Main information: http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=144228&&page=9


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Jake
Where is the main info on the event? Why did several competitors not compete (and why is Fred Eaton listed as crew on there twice?).

That's the team name

Team Fred Eaton

. Bryan Paine is support and works for him.


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 5:06 pm
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Why so many DNS's?

Were they no shows, or too much wind or...?


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 6:05 pm
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Posted : September 23, 2013 6:13 pm
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The water doesn't look like there's too much wind, is it the foiling (crashes) that's causing all the DNS's?


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 6:16 pm
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They had moments of instability downwind. Some times looked awesome, others not so much (not that I could do any better <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" /> )


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 7:00 pm
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Seems like Frank Camas has it figured out, what type of foils is he using, the L or C or V or...? And does he have some type of elevator control system on T rudders to control his elevation above the water?


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 7:04 pm
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Timbo,
This will answer your questions and give you the option of buying a foiling cat soon. Alex said on the press boat live today that the Foiling Phantom is going to be marketed after the Paris boat show ,which it will be in.So there's your chance for all that tech you wanted.

DNCs were from gear failure in very puffy conditions.


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 7:19 pm
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Builders & Designers of the C-Class share their genius with the world.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/39166438/highlight/416772


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 7:40 pm
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Thanks for the info, now I've got to get a powerball ticket!

I was watching some of the regatta video on that link, it's amazing how much more stable some of them are, than the others.


 
Posted : September 23, 2013 8:35 pm
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Live:
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/the-world-s-most-advanced-sailing-catamarans


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 8:13 am
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Thanks for the info, now I've got to get a powerball ticket!

... and start doing some serious pilates & core training


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Originally Posted by Timbo
Thanks for the info, now I've got to get a powerball ticket!

... and start doing some serious pilates & core training

.....and a RIB so you can pick up the pieces.


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 10:04 am
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Flying Phantom has soft sails, and is basically a widened carbon-fiber F18 with foils. The crashes won't be that bad. Watch the interview with the designers above, Martin Fischer claims he was out doing 27 kts in 12 kts of breeze on his first day out on the Flying Phantom-the control scheme is highly refined.


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 10:37 am
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yeah, but Timbo will take it out in 25 knots of breeze...


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 11:21 am
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In an interview yesterday, the designer said that they are estimating a 25,000 euro price.

$33,700


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 11:55 am
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That's about what the carbon 20 is correct?


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 12:02 pm
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Yes - about that.


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 12:03 pm
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That's beyond my current unsponsored toy budget, but certainly within the realm of probability, nigh similar price to the F20c, and I know I'd rather have the full flying boat. Heck a new Nacra Olympic 17 is 19K Euro or $26K USD now. New F18 is in the 22-25K USD range dependent on model. What's another $10K in the grand scheme of things?

Honestly, given the extreme complexity discussed in the C-Class designer happy hour in building these foils, you can see why the cost is what it is. Look at the cost of existing foils-$1300 for a single high aspect ratio straight board. New c-boards for the F20c is supposedly in the $2K realm PER BOARD. I suspect an L-foil will be near $5K/board to build. Hopefully cheaper in mass, but the Hydros boys are using titanium on the junction, and lots of R&D on the Groupama and Canadian boats to get it done in carbon.


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 12:15 pm
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All of the above are way cooler than a Melges 20.

Used boats with trailer and spares $30-50,000.

But they greatly out number (sell) us.


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 12:30 pm
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C class highlight reel from Clarksail.


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 6:28 pm
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dear god. I recommend hitting

mute

before playing that video. That's an atrocious soundtrack.


 
Posted : September 24, 2013 6:51 pm
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