I agree totally, Mike, but was wondering what you do if you're already super-deep angle because of the wind strength... and have all that cloth up (spin, jib, and main)
If any puff hits, where do you go? I suspect on the 18s with all your weight on the back of the bus, you just keep squirting out ahead.
For a non- or semi-planing hull, do you run a greater risk of broach?
Jay,
There's a certain point where it is game over. David and I did a Steeplechase 7-8 years ago where it was blowing 20+ and got hit by a squall with 35+ sustained while exiting Angel Creek. We pitchpoled with the kite up a couple of times, we took the spin down and pitchpoled a couple more times. We finally took the main down and were doing 15 knots under jib only. As the wind laid down, we would pull the main part of the way up and let it plaster against the shrouds. We maintained over 15 knots for that way until the wind got back down in the 20's. n Then we spun the boat up, re-set the main and spin, and finished the run to Anne's beach. There were several people and boats that got separated that day, and at least one CG rescue...
Mike
Easy solution. Buy my boat. Go to the event. Tell the stories.
Spot ****ing on Jeff!
Um, not quite...
We need the stories from folks who are there. I have a long history of providing this for events I attend, but no one can go to everything.
We all want more people to sail with us, there's nothing like good stories to keep the interest up. It's advertising that you simply can't buy.
I feel like we (across classes) have taken a step backwards over the past few years.
Mike
I've noted over quite a few videos (N17 and the Day3 F18 vid) of Sarah's starts and she is routinely behind. I hope her coaches have noticed. Not knocking the kids, they are sailing quite awesome, just making an observation where they need improvement as they head to the games.
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Back on topic, congrats to all the sailors and winners this week!
Mike
The Facebook coverage has been pretty much on par with the coverage we've had in the past. If you want professional coverage you have to pay for it and it's expensive and most hosts can't afford it when the budget is just entry fees and some sponsorship money. In the past there may have been more motivation to spring for high end coverage in the hopes of wooing more sponsors and when that didn't pan out the coverage evolved into what we have today.
Case in point, the A-Cat championship spent several thousand dollars on the A-cat coverage and they were able to afford it because they got a grant from the city. Most championships don't have that kind of assistance.
Congrats to Sarah and Matt! They are 'kids' but kicking butt in a fleet loaded with very talented adults! But, boy do I feel old now!
And Mike, I got a ride (twice) on a F20C over in Tel Aviv, with our own Opher (thanks Opher!) who took me out on his boat on two layovers there.
What a ride! I didn't realize the boat is 10' wide, which makes a huge difference going downwind in good wind and big swells. It's very stable. Opher was surfing down the bigger swells and we were having a great ride, upwind and down.
Will we see a of F20C's in the USA any time soon? I wonder why the boat hasn't caught on as quickly here, as it has over there, they have a fleet of 5 at their club in Caesarea. Perhaps the 10' width (hauling issues) and price are keeping them down in numbers?
Sorry for the thread creep, and Congratulations again to Sarah and Matt!
I wonder why the boat hasn't caught on as quickly here, as it has over there, they have a fleet of 5 at their club in Caesarea.
You can make the same statement about the SC22 and ask the same question and I bet you the answers are pretty darn similar.
How come you don't have one Tim?
I wonder why the boat hasn't caught on as quickly here, as it has over there, they have a fleet of 5 at their club in Caesarea.
You can make the same statement about the SC22 and ask the same question and I bet you the answers are pretty darn similar.
How come you don't have one Tim?
If Nacra would accept 10 horses, 7 dogs, and 4 kids in trade, I'd have one!
Ah the old I have too much money excuse.
If I had too much money, I'd have too many boats too, right?
It's the old
My wife spends too much money on my 4 kids
excuse.
How many kids do you and Karl have, combined?
How many kids have you two put through college?
I suppose I could have pulled them out of college just so I could buy a brand new F20C, but I doubt if they'd crew for me...
Until you've walked a mile in another man's shoes, don't try to tell him you know better. You don't know schidt.
It's the old
My wife spends too much money on my 4 kids
excuse.
How many kids do you and Karl have, combined?
How many kids have you two put through college?
I suppose I could have pulled them out of college just so I could buy a brand new F20C, but I doubt if they'd crew for me...
Until you've walked a mile in another man's shoes, don't try to tell him you know better. You don't know schidt.
Tim you chose your life just like I did and nobody forced you get married and have 4 kids. You clearly make more $$ than most on this forum and when you cry poor it kinda has an odor. Don't blame your wife and kids for you not being able to get a toy or going to regatta's if you really wanted it I'm confident you could sort it out. And when you ask questions like 'how come more people don't have an expensive toy that consumes a significant amount of off time and is kind of a hassle?' Ask yourself the same question and maybe, just maybe think to yourself that other people may have the same obligations you do. Well, except for the horses that's just stupid.
Yeah, I get it Dave, but this sport seems to have a lot of 'Dual Income No Kids' (DINK's) at the upper levels of competition.
I thought the F20C would be more popular here in the States, perhaps it's the trailering hassle with the 10' beam, kind of like the Tornado issues.
Not so fast... I have 2 kids, 2 grand kids, put my daughter through college, and had big property with horses through all of it. Just went to my first F18 nationals at 53, finished 14th. Life is what you make it, its about priorities and living within your means. We down sized after kids to go sailing and be healthy.
My pickup is paid for... most people spend more on their vehicle than I spend on sailing. Priorities I say. BTW... are you teaching those kids to sail?
PS. you know those guys who stay up all night to get you off the gate on time? Yeah hotshot, keep your bows down.
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