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Jake Kohl
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Teams that wait too long and catch the seabreeze shift late (when they see other teams getting into it down by the shore) will be eating a much bigger lift (sailing downwind = not good) to get back to shore and will be covering a lot of extra water.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 8:51 am
Jake Kohl
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But, teams that go to early for the sea breeze will find themselves on the beach with less wind than the guys offshore.

There will be a little dice rolling today but a sharp eye, clear head, and different experience will be fun to watch on the trackers. It's too bad the seabreeze won't be stronger and have more of an effect - but it's still something for the guys to try and time correctly.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 8:56 am
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Live feed is up.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 8:58 am
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looks like 10 minutes to me. Where are you looking?


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:03 am
Jake Kohl
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Originally Posted by Andy Humphries
looks like 10 minutes to me. Where are you looking?

http://new.livestream.com/accounts/8447390/events/2994520


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:07 am
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No position data from the spots. Am I missing something?


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:09 am
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OK, it's updating now.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:15 am
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Originally Posted by Redtwin
No position data from the spots. Am I missing something?

hit stop and then play at the bottom of the page.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:15 am
Jake Kohl
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Beach cams are showing more breeze on shore than I would have expected...looks like the seabreeze is setting up early so expect teams to be glued to the shoreline for the entire trip to Cocoa.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by Jake
Beach cams are showing more breeze on shore than I would have expected...looks like the seabreeze is setting up early so expect teams to be glued to the shoreline for the entire trip to Cocoa.

**** I need to hit the road soon 😛


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by Undecided
Originally Posted by Jake
Beach cams are showing more breeze on shore than I would have expected...looks like the seabreeze is setting up early so expect teams to be glued to the shoreline for the entire trip to Cocoa.

**** I need to hit the road soon 😛

It's not much seabreeze....don't rush too much.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:35 am
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huh...nope. The wind is out of the south west. The forecast is now a crap shoot. [I've thrown my hands up in the air]

I would now be focused on sticking with my competition and try to understand any small shifts (and try to take advantage of them like lake sailing). Watch out for large buildings / land features that will disturb the breeze that is currently blowing offshore.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:40 am
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We all go to the ocean for the better breezes. I hate when it's lake sailing conditions in the ocean. Although, if you excel in those conditions, and have the patience of a saint, you can come out smelling like roses...

Mike


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:51 am
Jake Kohl
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Originally Posted by brucat
We all go to the ocean for the better breezes. I hate when it's lake sailing conditions in the ocean. Although, if you excel in those conditions, and have the patience of a saint, you can come out smelling like roses...

Mike

Absolutely! I love those conditions - especially when everyone else is so bent on being upset by it they can't even think straight. It's just more of a challenge to contain your anxiety and maintain a high level of patience in your tactics. The randomness is pretty even so as long as you understand the things that affect the randomness and can either avoid them or take advantage of them but remain patient (and confident) that the randomness that makes you look behind one minute will even out and you'll get yours in a moment (it's when you bail on that randomness that you get bit hard).


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:54 am
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Originally Posted by Jake
huh...nope. The wind is out of the south west. The forecast is now a crap shoot. [I've thrown my hands up in the air]

I would now be focused on sticking with my competition and try to understand any small shifts (and try to take advantage of them like lake sailing). Watch out for large buildings / land features that will disturb the breeze that is currently blowing offshore.

Waves are your friend today....


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:55 am
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I know Newkirk is good in light air. Don't know about Moss, but I'm sure he and Casey aren't too shabby either.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:55 am
Jake Kohl
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Originally Posted by Andy Humphries
I know Newkirk is good in light air. Don't know about Moss, but I'm sure he and Casey aren't too shabby either.

They're tactically good in light - but having raced them in a couple of Steeplechases, I believe the curved foils on the Marstrom become a bit of a liability when the wind gets light. We were able to almost keep pace with them on our F18 in the last light air steeplechase I did.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:58 am
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Every time I go to the ocean the wind goes away!


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by Jake
HOLY COW. Ladies and Gents, we have a race. Overall (handicap) between the Marspeed on the Marstrom and Key Sailing on the Nacra Carbon 20 are separated by a whopping total of 8 seconds going into the last leg today. That race basically resets for these two today and this one is for the marbles.

10 minutes, 8 seconds on corrected time and 7 minutes, 22 seconds on elapsed time.

Still going to be a tight a race, though.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 10:19 am
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SMS racing is off pace and look to be heading toward the beach at 1.9 knots. Let's hope it is something repairable like a broken spin halyard.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 10:21 am
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Team Solar Wind is showing some agility in the light stuff. They're leading the F18s with Waveyhaven giving close chase.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 10:23 am
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Today should be a longer day with shorter distance. For the start, winds were light with small swells and shore break. Another tangle at the start in the breaking waves and SMS Racing's bow was damaged without knowing it. Once they realized they were taking on water, they pulled to shore. Their crew is with them and they are not continuing.

Tracking Link:
http://kws.kattack.com/GEPlayer/GMPosDisplay.aspx?FeedID=1234


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 10:48 am
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I may have missed it but were there any additional boats doing the dogfight?
Was the single start today because the wind and surf were so light?


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 11:14 am
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pretty light winds here at Kennedy Space Center....


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 11:47 am
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Considering the light air, their speeds are pretty good right now, Key sailing's going around 11kts. and most of the others are between 8-10kts.

Yesterday, with a lot more wind, they were only going 12. But yesterday they were close reaching, without kites, and today I think they are using the kites.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 11:53 am
Jake Kohl
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Originally Posted by cyberspeed
Today should be a longer day with shorter distance. For the start, winds were light with small swells and shore break. Another tangle at the start in the breaking waves and SMS Racing's bow was damaged without knowing it. Once they realized they were taking on water, they pulled to shore. Their crew is with them and they are not continuing.

Tracking Link:
http://kws.kattack.com/GEPlayer/GMPosDisplay.aspx?FeedID=1234

Awww, that stinks. A little epoxy and they could finish this thing. Looks like they're lucky and there is beach access about 3/4 mile south of them at 46th place.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 12:12 pm
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On the beach at the finish pier. Blowing 10 from SSE


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 12:44 pm
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Maybe more than 10. White caps past the surf line


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 12:47 pm
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Are they finishing off the pier or on the beach just past it? I guess it doesn't matter much.


 
Posted : May 22, 2014 1:04 pm
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