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(@Anonymous 39155)
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I love stirring the pot! This could go on for a while! <img src=

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Ya, you know what? This time last year the water temperature was 15 degrees higher than it is this year and I for one am pissed!!!!

Global warming my a$$ <img src=

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John
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Lookey here: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 5:34 am
Mark P
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I love stirring the pot! This could go on for a while! <img src=

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Ya, you know what? This time last year the water temperature was 15 degrees higher than it is this year and I for one am pissed!!!!

Global warming my a$$ <img src=

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John
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Lookey here: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm

If Global Warming hasn't affected your water temp this year. Can you explain the dramatic decrease ? (I like stirring to)


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 8:16 am
 robi
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El NiƱo


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 8:23 am
(@Anonymous 39155)
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I love stirring the pot! This could go on for a while! <img src=

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Ya, you know what? This time last year the water temperature was 15 degrees higher than it is this year and I for one am pissed!!!!

Global warming my a$$ <img src=

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John
H20 #532

Lookey here: http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0130-11.htm

If Global Warming hasn't affected your water temp this year. Can you explain the dramatic decrease ? (I like stirring to)

Read the link above: it's all about salinity and the

great conveyor

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Posted : November 14, 2006 8:57 am
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If Global Warming hasn't affected your water temp this year. Can you explain the dramatic decrease ? (I like stirring to)

Nope

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I think that it's just a bit of

End of Season Frustration

rearing its ugly head.

You see I'm an

I want it now, gas guzzler driving American

who's sick of all this crap. I/we, all of us major metropolitan area dwellers, have to drive straight through a most liberal college town to get to the lake. Why? Because construction of the four lane gas guzzler expressway slated to by-pass the college town was stopped. There was some

wetlands

out there and some little frog may have become unable to hop over the highway without being SMASHED. This college and another local university claimed this area for

research

. In the mean time we have to drive through town and a miriad of stoplights sitting behind 1983 Volvos puffing blue smoke and sporting bumper stickers like

Kansas...as bigoted as you think

.

And you now what? Since this highway project was stopped (20 years ago) research has proven that this wetland was not natural at all. It was

naturally

created in the 50's due to runoff from the expansion of the city, i.e. parking lots and storm sewers!!! So now what? Ignore the facts. The poor little frogs have claimed it for a habitat.

So what does this have to do with the weather being unseasonably warm last year and unseasonably cool this year? Not a damn thing. Do I know why? Yup, weather runs in cycles. And I'm pissed because I was

cheated

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Posted : November 14, 2006 9:32 am
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Thanks a BUNCH <img src=

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And look who's sitting out in the middle of the North Atlantic <img src=

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Tim, How many spare rooms do you have <img src=

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Posted : November 14, 2006 10:24 am
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check out the author here

Ooohh! looks like some more good reading

ADHD Secrets of Success: Coaching Yourself to Fulfillment in the Business World.

and

Walking Your Blues Away: Practical Bilateral Therapies for Healing the Mind and Optimizing Emotional Well-Being.


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 10:46 am
Mark P
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On this topic alot has been mentioned on this side of the pond about the amount of pollution cheap air travel causes. Still youve got to hand it to these airlines they have great names.


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 12:56 pm
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I've got a big paddle to stir with!!! You uns over in the UK has got Gore to educate the gov. about global warming. He'll fly over on his private jet, burning more fuel in one trip than I will burn in a whole year (including to heat my house) and he'll say how we're destroying the environment! <img src=

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Lemme at 'im...

Sometimes politicians are not just full of hot air, just full of it!

Clayton


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 1:10 pm
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right, so we get global warming. the polar ice caps melt and what happens? we get more sailing area. more water and a longer season. whats wrong with that?
remember, the earth is 70% race course


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 6:46 pm
Jake Kohl
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now that's almost t-shirt worthy.


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 7:02 pm
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right, so we get global warming. the polar ice caps melt and what happens? we get more sailing area. more water and a longer season. whats wrong with that?
remember, the earth is 70% race course

Somebody's watched

Waterworld

one too many times!!


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 7:05 pm
bvining
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When (if) the polar ice caps melt the ocean will rise 300ft.

Most of you in Florida will be underwater. Boston, Philly, DC, SF, NYC all under water.

Waterworld is right.

Find out how far underwater you'll be http://nmviewogc.cr.usgs.gov/viewer.htm
I'm at 188 ft above sea level

Bill


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 7:32 pm
 robi
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the earth is 70% race course

WOW! GENIUS! I LOVE THIS QUOTE! can I use it? pretty please!

Just like -

Life is too short for monohulls

- PTP

ahhahaha! That is some serious decal worthy literature right there! AMAZING! <img src=

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Posted : November 14, 2006 7:32 pm
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There is no such thing as global warming...it's just a FAD.

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Posted : November 14, 2006 8:01 pm
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Thanks Bob, another voice of reason.


 
Posted : November 14, 2006 8:16 pm
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There is no such thing as global warming...it's just a FAD

Gee, I hope not. I'm counting on the artic icecap melting so we can drill for oil and gas up there. We don't need no stinkin' polar bears anyway.

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Posted : November 15, 2006 12:26 am
(@Anonymous 17342)
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Yeah, what do they do, eat people and baby seals. So if Waterworld happens who survives??? The sailors, we don't need gas, have more intelligence than the average person, plus we would have boats!

I have a comment, I don't think the water is going to rise 300 feet, everything I have read says something like 50 or 60 feet. Where did you find that info.


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 12:52 am
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Take a glass full of ice cubes and top it to the very brim with water, let the ice melt and measure how much water has spilt over the side. Hang on a minute there hasn't been a drop spilt infact the level went down slightly. Now if all the ice bergs in the world melted would we have the same effect. Answers please


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 12:09 pm
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Take a glass full of ice cubes and top it to the very brim with water, let the ice melt and measure how much water has spilt over the side. Hang on a minute there hasn't been a drop spilt infact the level went down slightly. Now if all the ice bergs in the world melted would we have the same effect. Answers please

Ice bergs? Yes, same effect. Run-off from glacial melt down, different effect.


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 12:14 pm
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mostly true, I would think that very little of the worlds total ice formations are bergs. The polar ice caps are not floating ice bergs are they?


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 12:16 pm
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It is correct that melting of floating sea ice will do little to raise sea levels. The problem is mostly the huge glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica. These are supported by land above sea level. From what I have read, if those melted completely the resulting sea level rise would be on the order of 200 feet. What has some climatologists worried is the Greenland glaciers are now moving much faster than expected.


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 12:22 pm
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mostly true, I would think that very little of the worlds total ice formations are bergs. The polar ice caps are not floating ice bergs are they?

A lot is floating ice. I don't know the percentage.


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 12:23 pm
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Wow, last thread I was chastised for my

man made global warming is BS

view, but... I feel right at home here šŸ˜‰


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 12:39 pm
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Will, I do not believe that Golbal Warming is man caused (Completely maybe .9%), but the Earth does change!!!!!


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 1:04 pm
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The problem is mostly the huge glaciers in Greenland and Antarctica.

Recent studies indicate that the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets are gaining mass. It is speculated that warmer temperatures will increase snowfall in those areas, more than offsetting increased melting.

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/1115356v1
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/308/5730/1898


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 1:05 pm
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More mass = more beach, it's all good.


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 1:12 pm
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So which is the better investment, property on the beach or property in the mountains? <img src=

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Posted : November 15, 2006 1:21 pm
Jake Kohl
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the polar cap melting thing has always baffled me - so I ran some numbers. Note that the north pole is a floating ice cap so I've ignored it in the figures. The south pole is an ice sheet over land.

Ocean Surface area of the earth: 361 million km^2
Required Volume of water to raise the oceans 200 feet (.06 km): 22+ million km^3

The south pole has roughly 14 million km^2 of ice surface area and if we were to just look at the contribution of the south pole, the ice would have to be 1.6 km thick (above the water) to contain 22 million km^3. Reportedly (Wikipedia), there is 30 million km^3 of ice on the south pole alone - but I don't know how much of this is ice cap, ice sheet, or submerged.

Greenland's ice sheet surface area is a little over 1.8 million km^3...throw that into the volume calculation and the average ice thickness above the surface for Greenland and the South Pole would need to be 1.4 km thick.

Obviously, there's some more ice in Russia and Canada, so let's just toss in the whole surface area of Canada to approximate them both. Now the average ice thickness above the surface in Greenland, Antarctica, and Canada (assuming completely covered evenly) would be .8 km thick.

Basically, it's not as outrageous as I first thought (assuming that ALL of it would melt - dunno how practical that really is).


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 1:30 pm
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If possible, I would have bought land in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Maud_Land <img src=

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Should be really nice once the ice is gone. Once it was tropical there, same as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard


 
Posted : November 15, 2006 1:30 pm
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