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(@mauganh17)
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Airmail.

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New Lake Geneva one design "catamaran" with a center pod.
Read about them here:
http://www.sebschmidt.ch/3_projects/01197_DE35/articleSeahorsemai2004.pdf


 
Posted : June 10, 2004 9:13 pm
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pretty smart, though for the cost of their annual maitenance I could buy a very nice boat...


 
Posted : June 10, 2004 10:34 pm
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Interesting article and shots. What a creative, if expensive way to solve the "we dont have enough boats for a one design series" head scratcher: MAKE ALL OF THEM! That center pod presents one wacky design... Looking for some shots of the 35ft monster in action.

I still need to get up with you about a summer sail down here. Thanks for the link.

kh


 
Posted : June 10, 2004 10:56 pm
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ask and ye shall receive. Actually theres a whole story on them over at sailinganarchy.com

I'm going to the outer banks week after next. If I still have a boat left I'll be heading down to Wrightsville soon after.


 
Posted : June 11, 2004 7:27 am
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Even the ultra rich get fed up with the arms race. Go figure!


 
Posted : June 11, 2004 8:04 am
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yeah the spending limit is 40k euros/year on the campaign for them.

The guys over at SA put together a 40k/year budget for these guys using H16's 😛


 
Posted : June 11, 2004 8:25 am
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Check out the Old Forum for the thread "Pics of the new 35 Cat from Europe. Interesting layout" Follow that link and you can see 3 or 4 of these racing.

Don't you wish you only had one forum to check out or post to? I am in favor of killing the Old Forum.


 
Posted : June 11, 2004 8:59 am
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I read something on these beasties - Fully powered and hull flying up in 4 (yes 4) knots of wind !!!!!


 
Posted : June 11, 2004 9:39 am
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sailinganarchy.com

And their stated top speed = 13 knots !

Or at least it is claimed in the Madforsailing.com article on them.

Not much is it ? 13 knots to speed.

Apparently these boats can do 1.9 times the windspeed at 5 knots wind and 0.5 times the windspeed at 26 knots wind.

I think a normal standard beach cat does something like 1.0 to 1.3 times the windspeed in 5 knots and about 0.8 times the windspeed in 20-25 knots.

But I would definately want a ride on these biggies in 5 knots of wind !

Wouter


 
Posted : June 11, 2004 10:39 am
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Some even more shots of the Decision35.

Picture-filled link:

http://www.decision.ch/FR/actualite.htm

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You too can fly a hull in 3 knots!
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kh


 
Posted : June 11, 2004 10:48 am
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almost a D class


 
Posted : June 11, 2004 12:33 pm
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And here is the quote from Madforsailing.com (AKA thedailysail.com)

maybe I'm intepreting it incorrectly :

"The old Formula 40s were faster than the Alinghi cat at high speed. But that was not the target - it was not the objective to reach high speed." The objective was to sail fast in light winds and the conditions found on the lakes.

Upwind the VPPs of the Decision 35 indicate that they will be sailing at 1.9 times wind speed with a top speed of around 13 knots. Thus in 4 knots of wind, which you often see on the lakes, boat speed will be approaching 8 knots. Compared to the Alinghi cat the Decision 35 will be a little slower - Schmidt reckons that in 12 knots of wind, it might be 1 knot slower, making 12 knots instead of 13, but he believes that because the boat is a one design, the optimisation programs carried out by the teams will bump up the performance"

Wouter


 
Posted : June 11, 2004 5:48 pm
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Much much faster off the wind, altho they are not optimised for higher winds-the VPP just showed maybe 12 knots for optimum upwind speed closehauled in 12 or 13 knots of air.


 
Posted : June 15, 2004 11:06 pm
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