How much would you spend on vendors who support you?

It might depend on whether or not he promotes racist statements.

An individual consumer in USA's capitalist culture has very little power. One strength he does have is the ability to withhold how much he is willing to pay for products. Why should I publicly disclose such information?

Come on man. This is a legitimate topic, lets not bring more of that bull$hit into another thread.

I think it's great to see a vendor support out events by being there. I, for one, will give them my business. HOWEVER, I also like that we have a free forum here and will patronize Rick's store as well, just like I have Murray's. It boils down (for me) the feeling I get from where I spend my money. If they just want in my pocket, I won't go back. I've had Key Sailing go the extra mile for me and rushing to get me a part too, much better than my local store KO Sailing. Personally, I would like to make a better effort to shop from Rick more since he provides this forum as well as clincs and some top notch races.

If shipping didn't matter and both items were identical, would you be willin to spend 10% more on vendor A?

No. I doubt the validity of your hypothesis, there's always a difference. Also, money is a concern for me, the less I spend on other boat related things, the more regattas I can attend. So, indirectly vendors with lower prices are enabling my habit hobby.

It's offensive - and I wasn't the one who brought that signature here....and to be honest, that kind of stuff on a contractor's van or vendor who's giving me a proposal would affect my decision to hire them or not. That person/vendor/contractor's skill/talent may overcome it but he's already started half a step down if nothing else but from the display of insensitivity. We have sailors in our area that might take that tag line very seriously and I feel a bit of responsibility to call it out since the first time it got called out didn't stop it. I don't want my sailors/friends to think that through inaction we might actually condone that kind of atmosphere here.

I don't care if you think a view point, idea, person (me even) or action is stupid. Heritage / skin color is a different matter.

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I dont care about 10% (unless we are talking BIG purchases) and I am willing to pay 10% more to support vender's I appreciate. I will pay in cash too to save them 5%

BUT I agree with Jake. anyone who drags offensive politics, racism, or just about any other kind of degrading viewpoint (via bumper sticker, or something i overhear) will most likely not get my business).

Those that know me, know if there is a deal out there I'll find it.. But, when it comes to doing business local or with those that are supportive of our events I will always purhcase from them..
Recenly I went out my way to buy a product form a vendor at a higher price due to the fact that when I needed some help that vendor was there and went the extra mile with out ever being asked..

What was it that my father always use to say, penny wise dollar follish.

Slight variant of the original question which posited the condition

equal

.

I agree, if you're going to get good

service after the sale

then support the servicer. Business relations are a two way street, imo.

Kudo's Jake! Clearly racism is alive and well in the US.

So, I guess Bacho is a vendor? If that's the case then, Jake, I appologize. If he's not, then are you going to slam each post he makes based on his signature? Why not be the bigger man and ingnore it? BTW, it's not anything I'd ever have on my signature but we do still have Freedom of Speech in this country.

Yes it is, just watch a few hours of BET.

jesus f*cking christ.......

Bacho, open a store. I'll buy whatever you're peddling, just to keep things in balance so we aren't all a pile of mindless automatons.

To the actual question, I can't really say as I'm in a unique position.

and Jake, that's why my work truck doesn't have anything other than the company logo on it. Although most of the yuppies I do work for would have no clue who I support in elections is.

There's a steady stream of urine running down my leg I'm laughing so hard.

(edit)- Also, you butt clowns have no clue what racism is. Lock an old Korean and an old Japanese man in a room full of sharp objects, you'll f-ing see racism. Or, something a bit more with the times, lock a Israeli and a Palestinian in that same room. That's racism.

I remember a bumper sticker I saw in traffic one day:

Who would Jesus bomb

I wish I could caught up with the person and told them Palestine.

Mr. Bacho – though I will agree you signature is a bit offensive and speaks volumes to your IQ, unless the moderator of this forum has problem with this, you have every right in the world to leave it there. And I would suggest you not cave into the opinion of others.

Mr. Kohl – who the hell are you or stated better who died and made you God? Take your sanctimonious crap elsewhere, or do what you do best when people don’t kiss you butt and agree with everything you say – put him on ignore.

Arn't you the guy that went to a business on the west coast to save a few bucks and got bad service because he was cheaper then the guy down the street?

Glad to see you learned your lesson!

No that's religion... Dafur, that's racism!

BTW, it's not anything I'd ever have on my signature but we do still have Freedom of Speech in this country.
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Hmm.... back to high school dude... and pay attention this time... freedom of speech is about the state regulating your speech. (see the other supreme court decision Thursday)

Rick could and should eliminate all bacho posts that use that signature line. This is a privately run board.

Rick does regulate speech.... For example...

I am not offended by a poster using the George Carlin's Seven Dirty words (*, Piss, kiss, femalegenitalia, *, Mother fucker and Tits.)

I am offended by racist clap trap.

I am offended by racist clap trap.

Um, this case is out in the open, inviting criticism. There is merit in that, imo.

Things that don't offend me: http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?showtopic=136602

back to the original hypothesis, I would think that many of us would support local retailers within certain criteria:
- local product support
- genuine interest and expertise in their particular idiom (be it restaurant, sport, entertainment)
- supports local community

If internet retailers do this as well, then I would be happy to patronize them as well. Rick's site is a good example of that.

Several of the boat dealers are prime examples of this as well, supporting the sailing community by hosting regattas, sponsoring teams, etc. I don't know of many boat manufacturers that do this directly, so it stands to reason that the dealers absorb those overhead costs, and some of that is buried in the prices I pay from them

I try to patronize locally owned/operated restaurants in the off-tourist season (I stay home during season - it's ridiculous), and will pay a certain amount extra to local sailing/dive/shooting/alcohol/topless shops to encourage community activity and support.

In many cases I make that specific point to the owners of the establishment I choose to patronize. I also point out specific cases where internet prices are dramatically (like over 20%) different. In some cases the retailer adjusts their pricing, or explain valid reasons for the difference.

I'm certain most, if not all products can be found slightly cheaper on the internet. It stands to reason that internet retailers do not have nearly the overhead that a brick & mortar business would.

Most retailers are aware of the price discrepancy between web and brick, and don't charge dramatically higher than the average internet cost.

I doubt any savvy retailer would be naieve enough to think that 99% of their customers don't do their homework before a purchase, and know pretty well how much things cost.

Those sites which sell items for substantially less than the average tend to be suspect in my book (inaccurate description or specs, hidden costs/shipping, or outright misrepresentation)

Talk about sanctimonious crap! I'm with Jake. Frankly, I find it ironic that kiss **** piss femalegenitalia whatever is offensive to the moderators but racism is not. I'm moving toward putting the whole site and online store on ignore. And no matter how vehement the protest, wrong is still wrong.

Yes
I will pay a little bit more to buy from someone who helps the local sailing.

I agree with your reasoning but feel your conclusion is extreme.

Because ignoring it shows anybody that grazes through here that we don't care and it gives all of us a bad image. That political thread alone shows that a lot of people are incapable of ignoring things they don't care for. Can you imagine what society would be like if everyone was just a

bigger man

and ignored everything that was unsuitable? I can turn that around on you a thousand ways. C'mon man.

Re: Freedom of Speech, you'll also note that I did not demand that he take it down. He has the right to put it up there as much as I do to complain about it. I'm good with that. That's how this works.

And what, bomb his birthplace?

I do not own a store, nor do I sell any products. I had this discussion with a few friends the other night and was surprised to find almost no loyalty in them. I was just wondering how everyone else felt.

As to my signature you will find that it has been removed.

Well done. Thank you.

Okay Karl, say something inflammatory or this place will be silent as a morgue.

I know! California has banned the sale of foie gras. Let's beat on them awhile.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/48012557/

Hold on, I'm dodging traffic on I94 and changing my signature.....