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I added the gallon jugs 3/4 full of water- now their rock hard ice.
I keep the boat at an incline so that any moisture in it is back by the drain plug. I also have a small amount or road salt back in there too.
I didn't want any water freezing near/around the centereboard trunk inside- I theorize could easily lend to small cracks/seperations.

We've already had about 6" snow, but it has all but evaporated/melted.

Awaiting the winter snow falls
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Posted : December 12, 2014 11:52 am
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Maybe I'm stupid, or maybe it has already been said in a former thread.

But why don't you turn the cat 180 degrees over, bottom up.

Bind and tie the rest of the tarp underneath and set the whole thing under inclination for getting rid of the water and snow.
The advantage is less windsensitive and you have to store the mast somewhere inside; which is anyway much better.

The whole installation is a bit flatter and more down to earth, so seems less vulnerable.


 
Posted : December 12, 2014 4:29 pm
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Put it inside.


 
Posted : December 12, 2014 6:37 pm
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I love these threads every year. Time to go sailing here in California.


 
Posted : December 12, 2014 9:43 pm
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http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2014/12/13/pineapple-express-storm-system-pounds-california/

is that the same California hit by storms and mud slides?

Summer here in Oz, not a lot better!


 
Posted : December 13, 2014 2:30 am
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Originally Posted by northsea junkie
Maybe I'm stupid, or maybe it has already been said in a former thread.

But why don't you turn the cat 180 degrees over, bottom up.

Bind and tie the rest of the tarp underneath and set the whole thing under inclination for getting rid of the water and snow.
The advantage is less windsensitive and you have to store the mast somewhere inside; which is anyway much better.

The whole installation is a bit flatter and more down to earth, so seems less vulnerable.

Another good option.
Ever heard the expression: There's a dozen ways to skin a cat?


 
Posted : December 13, 2014 8:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Put it inside.

I'd rather have my 2001 truck in the garage, than my 2007 boat.
The house/basement is not a doable option any time in the near future either.


 
Posted : December 13, 2014 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Todd_Sails
Ever heard the expression: There's a dozen ways to skin a cat?

No, that's new to me. In Dutch we only know the more profane expression: There are dozen ways to go to Rome.
But that's ofcourse way off catamarans.

You (US),however also know: talk twenty to the dozen.

Which has ofcourse more to do with this forum. <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />


 
Posted : December 14, 2014 3:23 am
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What is this frozen water jug trick you speak of? How does it work? Do you wrap the jugs in multiple layers of bikinis to insulate them? Is some sort of refrigeration device installed inside of the jug?

I look forward to your answer as I'm getting tired of having to pound down frozen Margaritas because they become unfrozen within five minutes when sitting on the beach. Hopefully the refrigeration device can be transported on my scooter as parking a car is problematic with all the tourists flocking to the islands from frozen wastelands like Wisconsin.


 
Posted : December 14, 2014 3:15 pm
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Normally I'd say I hope you choke on your straw, but this winter has been pretty dang tame.


 
Posted : December 14, 2014 9:18 pm
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Cheer up, Karl, its only december.

But you know: it's the last straw that breaks the camel's back.


 
Posted : December 15, 2014 3:28 am
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Oh I'm cheerier than normal. It's 8am and 47ºF on December 15th, it could easily be 50º cooler and I could be up to my butt in snow. But yes, there's still three months of winter left, and January and February can still be brutal pricks.


 
Posted : December 15, 2014 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
there's still three months of winter left

winter has not started yet ... December 21


 
Posted : December 15, 2014 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Oh I'm cheerier than normal. It's 8am and 47ºF on December 15th, it could easily be 50º cooler and I could be up to my butt in snow. But yes, there's still three months of winter left, and January and February can still be brutal pricks.

Karl is happy, he just heard that Summer is going to be on a weekend this year in Minnesota.


 
Posted : December 15, 2014 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by F-18 5150
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Oh I'm cheerier than normal. It's 8am and 47ºF on December 15th, it could easily be 50º cooler and I could be up to my butt in snow. But yes, there's still three months of winter left, and January and February can still be brutal pricks.

Karl is happy, he just heard that Summer is going to be on a weekend this year in Minnesota.

Ha! That's funny.


 
Posted : December 15, 2014 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by F-18 5150
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Oh I'm cheerier than normal. It's 8am and 47ºF on December 15th, it could easily be 50º cooler and I could be up to my butt in snow. But yes, there's still three months of winter left, and January and February can still be brutal pricks.

Karl is happy, he just heard that Summer is going to be on a weekend this year in Minnesota.

Ha! That's funny.

Ugh. Sad but true. <img src="<>/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh" height="15" width="15" />


 
Posted : December 15, 2014 1:03 pm
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when the wind picks up, do those frozen jugs of water become flying instruments of death? Or bludgeon the hulls?


 
Posted : December 15, 2014 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by MN3
Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
there's still three months of winter left

winter has not started yet ... December 21

Winter the weather can start here in the beginning of October, but it usually doesn't get real crappy until mid-November. Usually the end of March things start getting decent, but we've gotten pounded with snow the beginning of May. Winter the season is December 21st.
Nice sailing season is mid-June to the end of August. So yeah, 2½ months...


 
Posted : December 15, 2014 1:09 pm
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Karl, we live on about the same latitude. I think me even a little bit more north.

So we share the same daylight rhythm. This week we are in the socalled dark-days before Christmas.
Something where these Southern boys can only dream off!

Wintertime will also in Holland start around end November and will finish around end March. But fortunately, we have the Northsea close by (for me, 500m.).
This sea will slow down its temperature at least till December and will never go down 40 degree Fahrenheit.
So you can warm your hands when sailing below that in air temperature.

This sea-phenomenon will moderate our climate compared with your climate. You have what we call a (severe) landclimate and we have a (mild)seaclimate.

I can sail 12 month a year as long as airtemp is above 32 F and chilltemp is not to far down 30 F.


 
Posted : December 16, 2014 4:19 am
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i lived in scotland for 2 years.
so far north that the sunset was around 1130 PM and sunrise around 2am in the summer.... conversely,,, was very dark this time of year

It was one of the most beautiful places on earth, all 2 weeks of summer were warm and sunny, rest of the year it pissed rain and wind all day every day. Our Navy Seals had a foul weather training camp there.


 
Posted : December 16, 2014 6:33 am
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Winter in South Carolina = lows in the 20'sF and highs in the 50's F from Late November to late March. Mix in some 70 degree days here and there, Sunday we saw a high of 74F.
Its possible to sail all year and swim in the lakes from May to October with no wetsuit. The kids are in the lake in April, but not me, too much shrinkage.
Still not Florida!


 
Posted : December 16, 2014 10:22 am
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water is around 60 currently here in the tampa/gulf area.
not bad but I purchased dry bibs a few years ago. makes sailing much more enjoyable for me in the winter

http://kokatat.com/products/bibs-and-pants/hydrus-3l-whirlpool-bib-men.html
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Originally Posted by dave mosley
Winter in South Carolina = lows in the 20'sF and highs in the 50's F from Late November to late March. Mix in some 70 degree days here and there, Sunday we saw a high of 74F.
Its possible to sail all year and swim in the lakes from May to October with no wetsuit. The kids are in the lake in April, but not me, too much shrinkage.
Still not Florida!

 
Posted : December 16, 2014 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by MN3
water is around 60 currently here in the tampa/gulf area.
not bad but I purchased dry bibs a few years ago. makes sailing much more enjoyable for me in the winter

I understand that you want to protect your suit underneath with a separate exterior layer. But if you are wearing a modern frontzip wetsuit, you stay abolutely dry inside your wetsuit with catsailing. So, normal sailing trousers above that, would also do the trick i.m.h.o.

But what suit are you wearing exactly underneath?


 
Posted : December 16, 2014 12:52 pm
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Originally Posted by MN3
water is around 60 currently here in the tampa/gulf area.

You are on the wrong coast. Water temp is 76 here. About the same temp as the air temp:
http://www.pbcgov.com/parks/beach_conditions/#.VJCPrntDFc8


 
Posted : December 16, 2014 3:04 pm
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I walked south until someone asked what (the snow-shovel) was on my shoulder. Only then did I know I found a good home.


 
Posted : December 16, 2014 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by cyberspeed
Originally Posted by MN3
water is around 60 currently here in the tampa/gulf area.

You are on the wrong coast. Water temp is 76 here. About the same temp as the air temp:
http://www.pbcgov.com/parks/beach_conditions/#.VJCPrntDFc8

The shallow water here loses and gains temp faster.......and you have Sea Lice. Never heard of that pest before. I read that they bite where the sun don't shine.


 
Posted : December 16, 2014 4:22 pm
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Sea lice is not that common here unless you go digging in seaweed. The 16 degree difference in water temp is a combination between gulf stream and latitude. The gulf stream is only about 5 miles offshore and you are central Florida, not South Florida.


 
Posted : December 16, 2014 8:49 pm
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Normally I'd say I hope you choke on your straw, but this winter has been pretty dang tame.

Of course you would.

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Posted : December 16, 2014 9:06 pm
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I HATE wetsuits. I feel like 200 pounds of fat stuffed into a 60 pound bag....

My dry bib has socks and keeps me 100% dry. This makes launching off the beach and anchoring (and sitting on a wet boat) totally dry and comfratable. It's more about the dryness than the warmth.

On a real cold day (by my standards - 55%) i will wear fleece pants underneath (think thermal underwear) but normally I just wear a regular bathing suit

Originally Posted by northsea junkie
Originally Posted by MN3
water is around 60 currently here in the tampa/gulf area.
not bad but I purchased dry bibs a few years ago. makes sailing much more enjoyable for me in the winter

I understand that you want to protect your suit underneath with a separate exterior layer. But if you are wearing a modern frontzip wetsuit, you stay abolutely dry inside your wetsuit with catsailing. So, normal sailing trousers above that, would also do the trick i.m.h.o.

But what suit are you wearing exactly underneath?


 
Posted : December 17, 2014 7:36 am
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My family has had a place in boynton for over 30 years. My sis lives in Miami. I have been down there many, many times. I know there is mast up storage in Delray (looks more like a place to leave and forget your hobie)

I strongly prefer to sail in the gulf enjoy all islands and protected bays we have here ... but to each their own.

btw the water temp is up to 64 and should keep going up while we have some have warmer days... .

Originally Posted by cyberspeed
Originally Posted by MN3
water is around 60 currently here in the tampa/gulf area.

You are on the wrong coast. Water temp is 76 here. About the same temp as the air temp:
http://www.pbcgov.com/parks/beach_conditions/#.VJCPrntDFc8


 
Posted : December 17, 2014 7:41 am
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