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I have always been a dog lover. I was lucky enough raise and train a Yellow Lab, who could learn everything a was able to teach him, within reason anyway.

At the Broken Rudder Reggata last weekend, (WHAT A GREAT TIME THAT WAS!) My skipper I crewed for brought his yellow lab with us, and really remeinded me of my 'Bock', who passed many years ago.

That being said, I have always thought that Vick, having payed his time, should be once again able to play in the NFL.
Maybe he shouldn't be allowed to buy dogs anymore, but thats another story.


 
Posted : July 27, 2009 6:22 pm
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Shackle Vick to the Alinghi engine then flip them both into the bottom of the see. Neither of them deserve to ever compete again.


 
Posted : July 27, 2009 9:06 pm
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The real question is when the NFL will allow jerseys with the name Mexico on the back.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 7:09 am
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He did pay his debt.. but he got off easy...

Of course he will get picked up by a team that needs his skills.. but its a shame... he doesn't deserve to be a millionaire. He should be smothered in alpo and released in a lion cage.. or bearcage... etc

I still don't get how you can have so much money, and have so much to lose.. and do SUCH a ridiculously stupid thing like finance a dog fighting ring? I understand greed, and drugs, and addictions.. but dog fighting???


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by andrewscott
He did pay his debt.. but he got off easy...

Of course he will get picked up by a team that needs his skills.. but its a shame... he doesn't deserve to be a millionaire. He should be smothered in alpo and released in a lion cage.. or bearcage... etc

I still don't get how you can have so much money, and have so much to lose.. and do SUCH a ridiculously stupid thing like finance a dog fighting ring? I understand greed, and drugs, and addictions.. but dog fighting???

Lots of money is not necessarily an indication of intelligence. Vick went with what he knew which was hangin' with a bunch of bums. They used him and his money until he got caught. Rats and ships comes to mind.

He's been given a second chance. Hopefully he'll find someone to watch his back and manage his money who won't rob him blind.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 8:35 am
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Donte Stallworth killed someone with his car while impaired (on something). He got 30 days in jail - I think Vick's 2 year prison sentence was pretty harsh in comparison.

I do hope the commissioner suspends him for a few more games, just for lying about it to the commissioner's office prior to being convicted. My employer would not take me back if I told a blatant lie to my boss (his team owner) and to my CEO (the NFL commissioner).

Too young + too much money + too much free time sometimes = trouble.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by tshan
I do hope the commissioner suspends him for a few more games, just for lying about it to the commissioner's office prior to being convicted.

He was only cleared to go to camp... and play in the last 2 pre-season games..
He also is currently not part of any team... but i am sure that will change.. owners don't care about morals... they only care about wins


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 9:16 am
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I don't know what the commissioner is thinking. They should set a firm rule that anyone with a Felony Conviction can't ever play in the NFL again. That rule would bring a little respect back to the game. All the talk about them being role models is complete crap.

Almost all big companies do a background check on you. If you have a felony they don't hire you.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 9:27 am
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I live right around the corner from Falcon's Training Camp when this thing hit the fan. Krantz is right around the area too - I donno if he saw the PETA rally they had over there but it was insane.

I hate him for what he did. He paid his debt to society however that doesn't automatically absolve him of all his sins. Certainly playing in the NFL is a privilege that he should not have the honor of participating in.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 9:35 am
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Tempest in a teapot.

Fans don't care about felonies! They care about wins!

Proof
The Ravens had three guys... One prosecuted for murder, the other convicted for drug running, and the third for running a high stakes gambling game.

The Baltimore fans .... love these guys (Ray Lewis and Jamal Lewis, Corey xxx).

If Vick will help a team win.... he will get the job.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 9:36 am
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Being a pro athlete is carte blanche to do pretty much whatever you want without much fear of repurcussions. Vick's mistake was that he pissed off the animal lovers. They are an extremely vocal group and will haunt him no matter where he goes. I think Goodell realizes this and the PR nightmare its going to cause. Had his crimes been against his fellow man, this would already be behind him.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 9:41 am
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Let me rephrase.....his mistake was bankrolling a dogfighting operation. That pissed off the animal lovers (me included).


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by Mike Hill
I don't know what the commissioner is thinking. They should set a firm rule that anyone with a Felony Conviction can't ever play in the NFL again. That rule would bring a little respect back to the game. All the talk about them being role models is complete crap.

Almost all big companies do a background check on you. If you have a felony they don't hire you.

I agree, maybe a felony conviction should keep you out of the NFL, but right now, it ain't so.

If they don't have it, pre-employment drug screens would be nice too.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 10:21 am
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People are people...

Generally speaking, the punishment never fits the crime if you have enough money, and certainly not if you're a celebrity or star athlete.

I don't like it either, but I'm a Pats fan, and we have to deal with Tom Brady and his swinging lifestyle. He knocks up one incredibly gorgeous chick and leaves her for another (AND MARRIES THE SECOND ONE!!!). I have less than zero respect for that in general, even less for someone who our kids want to emulate.

Whether we like it or not, our kids look up to these guys and want to be them.

Worse, there isn't a single female in New England (and probably 3/4 of the married ones) who wouldn't kill to be with Tom. OK, obviously that's not

worse

but it is annoying.

Mike


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 10:47 am
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I'm pretty sure I would marry her in a heartbeat as well.
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And if it were my choice, I would put Vick in the ring with one of the dogs; see if he can scramble out of that pocket.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 1:06 pm
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I'm sure she's not nice!

C


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 2:08 pm
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****.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 2:33 pm
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<****.

That guy should call me,... i would be willing to put up with it for a while!!! <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />

Usually i don't like polkadots... in this case.. i make an exception


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 2:40 pm
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On the upside she's probably high maintenance and expensive always good qualities in a woman.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
On the upside she's probably high maintenance and expensive always good qualities in a woman.

that explains why i always end up with low qual women...


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by brucat
I don't like it either, but I'm a Pats fan, and we have to deal with Tom Brady and his swinging lifestyle. He knocks up one incredibly gorgeous chick and leaves her for another (AND MARRIES THE SECOND ONE!!!).

Jimmy Kimmel was doing color for a game and brought that up. It was pretty hilarious.

He wasn't asked back. Too bad.


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 2:47 pm
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From all accounts I've read Giselle is a kind and whole-hearted girl. The only hard part of that relationship would be finding a place to focus your eyes when hanging out with her and all her Victorias Secret Angels friends. tough life


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 2:48 pm
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i dont know how... but i have dated some real lookers (Lookers... not hookers)... and it was more problems with guys drooling and being jerks than the girls being

high maint

...


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 3:07 pm
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
On the upside she's probably high maintenance and expensive always good qualities in a woman.

David:

I bet she makes damm near as much has he does.

Doug


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 3:11 pm
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No, she's worth far more than he is.

But, none of that is the point. The mother of his child was equally hot, and is the MOTHER OF HIS CHILD...

Mike


 
Posted : July 28, 2009 3:26 pm
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Ultimately, which ever team picks him up, he'll have to kept on a short leash.

The rumor is Vick may end up with the Pats backing up Tom Brady. If he does, the team will have to be on watch for lobster fighting.


 
Posted : July 29, 2009 9:11 am
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Just my luck...

BTW, you watched Letterman last night too?

Mike


 
Posted : July 29, 2009 9:27 am
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Originally Posted by brucat
Just my luck...

BTW, you watched Letterman last night too?

Mike

Busted.


 
Posted : July 29, 2009 11:10 am
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