New Hobie F18?

Nice pictures tony!

Where's the rest of it?

Rear beam looks like it might be a bit of a wave slapper?

Shouldn't this conversation be over on the

Test

?

The bow looks like it is raked back more on the FXone, hard too tell any other differences in hull shape. The color really makes things look different. I wonder if the production models, both the F18, and the Carbon FXone will be produced in white, or this color.

Both look really nice!

I wonder if the boards are actually the same size as the current boards, but the holes just look smaller because of the color, and the larger volume hull.

Keep scrolling through, there is a photo of a board.

Holy hell! I was just looking at the hole in the hull. Yeah, that baby is tiny. Just a guess-timate, but 2 inches less than the Tiger board?

Where there any rudders? Your picture No. 37 indicates those will have surface under the hull. Yee...

This is all interesting but I'm wondering if they have not gone to far with the foils. No obvious "want-this-feel, but that's me and I'm always a late adaptor.

The conclusion is correct in general, however not only aspect ratio but also the area itself is important (a high aspect ratio foil would work, if it is only big enough). It is hard to judge the controlabilty without knowing area and span.

But even more important: I have my doubts that it will bring any hydrodynamic advantage upwind. The reduced induced drag of the increased span, might be easily overcome by the increased friction drag due to reduced Reynoldsnumber. If the area is too small, there will be also a risk of cavitation at high speeds.

Would be interesting if the production boat will have more conventional daggerboards or if they learn it the hard way.

Cheers,

Klaus

I just realized that color looks like Duratec surfacing primer. Did they bring out their plugs for the show?

those boards would look even nicer if there were slanted slightly forward of center along the lengthwise midline. Kind of like a forward-swept wing.

I said LOOK nicer, because that would probably be inherently unstable (and collect seagrass like nobody's business!)

The color is very similar but what about the rig fittings in place and the inspection hole?

According to Mischa that is the first hull produced, and board produced.
IMO it is close to the finished product but not itself finished. Kind of like the prototype car you see this year then next year the sales model is slightly different.

This isn't a production hull, It's the master male plug. Plugs are always done in dark colors.
Martin Fischer did the design work, the same guy that did the Capricorn F18.
some differents, added spray rails <img src="<>/frown.gif" alt="frown" title="frown" height="15" width="15" /> newer beam saddles <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" /> new daggers <img src="<>/smirk.gif" alt="smirk" title="smirk" height="15" width="15" /> hulls are not cantered <img src="<>/shocked.gif" alt="shocked" title="shocked" height="15" width="15" />

Rich

The next question would be, is Hobie USA going to import them?

I really want to know what the carbon FXone is going to cost, and what it weighs. I seriously doubt that will get imported here though.

What do you want it to weight and what do you expect it to weight? I dont know but would love to hear what people want and think.

I don't think 250lbs is out of the question, but it is alot to ask to take 70lbs out of a design. Chances are it'll be out of my price range anyhow.

Price of the I-cat (FXOne Carbon) is about 17.500 euro in Europe (I guess that is the base model, one-up).

I also really wonder what the boat will weigh. Hobie Holland didn't reply yet.

In my opinion the F18 bows look very thin. I really wonder how they will cope with heavy seas under kite.
If you see the shape of the new hull, it is clear that the Cap, Viper and Blade were really innovative already years ago. Especially the Blade if you check the thin high aspect daggerboards and rudders.

Gill

Suggestion about low rear crossbar: reminds me of what was said about the Bimare 18-HT. Turned out to be a problem, nicht wahr?

Some new pics have emerged which also show the rudder shape, it was obviously taken on a quite day as it was possible to take a pic of the whole boat.

..continued.

Is it an illusion or is the hull straight up and down but the x bars are slightly angled up? Are the hulls possibly slightly canted?

It looks like the designer carried over a lot of the ideas he used in the Capricorn.

i dont know if you've seen these..... but the new prototype Hobie F18 was released at the Pairs boat show in December....... its calll the

W...Cat

there isnt much of a pic.... but it has the specification!

http://hobie-cat.net/site_gb/

http://hobie-cat.net/img/produits/w_cat_description_gb.pdf

What's

EC Homologation

?

Never mind............

Wild Cat...
http://hobie-cat.net/img/produits/w_cat_description_gb.pdf

J

Meeee likeeee

That could collect dust in your driveway next to the A-cat. <img src="<>/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh" height="15" width="15" />

That's for chris and jake.

apparently the bandwagon ride is free, and everyone's jumping on...Tawd, dont you remeber all that Cuban coffee I supplied you with at Spring Fever? Man, I figured someone would be on my side...

Looking at this new F18...for the first time in a loooong time, I'm interested in a Hobie Cat.