Sooooo...you mean to tell me you watched that entire AC without being the least bit worried one of the boats might wipe out? I just don't think you are being realistic. Disaster being a possibility was the whole point of the new boat and format.
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Right... 4 videos... one of the equipment fail that almost resulted in a capsize... the equivalent of a bad wrap on your spin sheet in a monhull leading to a broach.
Not a half baked design issue... (that you agree with me on actually)
The second vid is of a stuff which slowed the boat..... IE a racing Fail... not a boat that was over matched by the conditions and going to crash... (granted they had legislated that possibility out of the race)
And of course the design failures that happened before the racing.
Don't take my point to an absurdity... the boats are supposed to be exciting and challenging... They just should not have correctable bad manners because the Administrators of the game made some bad choices.
Finally you can't compare the AC which is a design and racing, push it to the limit competition with OLYMPIC Competition in strict one design boats.... The entire POINT of the olympics is to medal multihull sailors on their demonstrated sailing skill... not luck or boat design.
oops.. I thought Jake was referencing the C class
little America's Cup
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nah... the issue is this picture
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What the hell is the guy in the background doing?
I'm with Jake on this one. While winglets may be a good addition next time, watching sporty boats that are always on the verge of wiping out is may more entertaining. The AC72s fill that role well as well.
If you guys had sailed a boat with winglets you'd probably think differently. I hate that I have to agree with Mark on this but those boats do need them. Short of clearing weed/ trash from your rudders, there would be no ill effects to tuning or training and the boats would be able to be pushed harder i.e go faster and still give the opportunity for even bigger carnage. It should be about equal boats but they should also be sorted so the teams can beat each other tactically.If all they want out of multihulls is crash and burn they should have put the N-17 rig on a 14' x 7' wide platform. Would you guys be justifying that as well?
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I wish this video went for longer. the carnage is pretty awesome to watch.
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Just as a matter of principle?... or do we love each other today? he he
Anyway... when the sailors refuse to sail off the beach because of the conditions.. OR... they put in a wind max and min for racing. ... You will know if I am right.
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Just as a matter of principle?... or do we love each other today? he he
Anyway... when the sailors refuse to sail off the beach because of the conditions.. OR... they put in a wind max and min for racing. ... You will know if I am right.
Pretty much matter of principle...always.
What the hell is the guy in the background doing?
Maybe he's sitting on a turtled boat? That was some crazy stuff, trying to bear away around that mark!
looks more like a windsurfer to me, can see one sailing in the background
http://www.catsailingnews.com/ So this is what it is really like at the top of the pyramid - Apparent wind is the saving grace, and I bet the leaders have some foiling experience so they can keep boat speed up in the waves by over trimming the main and doing some needlework across the waves. Just a late night guess... this does illustrate the importance of safety boats. I wish we had some RIBs on Pensacola Bay.
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did anyone bother to watch the Day 1 racing ??
its an entirely different
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compared to the 25~30knot vids <img src="<>/shocked.gif" alt="shocked" title="shocked" height="15" width="15" />
At the end of the day the cream of the crop will have themselves well and truly sorted out and know how to handle the boat well before the Olympics.
Question:
is there such a thing as a perfect catamaran ????
didn't think so
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Just as a matter of principle?... or do we love each other today?
Pretty much matter of principle...always.
Pretty sure that was a rhetorical question...
I'm with you Bert. Nothing I hate more than running a regatta without RIBs. For any boats, not just small cats.
Mike
So we're going for increasing the hazard like that Canadian bobsled course where the dude whacked the pole at 90+ mph?
Yeah, that would be fun to watch....until someone actually gets hurt and then all the yelling will start again...
I'd be more inclined to watch it. Just sayin'
JC and Sarah had a good day yesterday. Sounds like they might have been in the lead but then capsized just before the finish. Still got a 10th.
Stoopid lack of rudder winglets!
Stoopid lack of rudder winglets!
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Last word... the best in the world are supposed to make sailing the boat look easy. When it looks hard for them and slightly out of control.... ugh oh...
Not sure if this works - if you have a facebook account this link should take you to a video of a really nasty mark rounding. Some serious pucker factor. <img src="<>/shocked.gif" alt="shocked" title="shocked" height="15" width="15" />
I believe Sarah/John are the team rounding at about 13 secs.
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Just as a matter of principle?... or do we love each other today?
Pretty much matter of principle...always.
Pretty sure that was a rhetorical question...
I'm with you Bert. Nothing I hate more than running a regatta without RIBs. For any boats, not just small cats.
Mike
Mike,
Mark and my relationship goes way back (20+ years)and is very complicated ( I'm always right and he's always wrong)and may not be as it appears on the intarweb, but thanks for your input don't know what I'd do without your insight and helpful comments.
I disagree. In challenging conditions like they have had in Palma, the boat should be a challenge to sail, even for the very best. That is what truly separates the Olympians from everyone else, and the medalists from the other Olympians. The top guys still have consistent finishes across the wind range, and it is extremely well deserved.
Being a challenge and making it look easy are two separate concepts.
Mark and my relationship goes way back (20+ years)and is very complicated ( I'm always right and he's always wrong)and may not be as it appears on the intarweb, but thanks for your input don't know what I'd do without your insight and helpful comments.
As you correctly deduced, I was not aware of your little tryst. Was just trying to be funny, not a third wheel. Please don't feel threatened and get Dr. Phil involved...
Mike
I disagree. In challenging conditions like they have had in Palma, the boat should be a challenge to sail, even for the very best. That is what truly separates the Olympians from everyone else, and the medalists from the other Olympians. The top guys still have consistent finishes across the wind range, and it is extremely well deserved.
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After sailing at the Worlds in AUS I watched many of the best struggle in 25+. Flips wash offs, etc. After talking to many, all admitted to being to various degrees out of their comfort zones. But the ability to keep moving/surviving faster than the rest of us weekend warriors shows the separation in their skill set.
I disagree. In challenging conditions like they have had in Palma, the boat should be a challenge to sail, even for the very best. That is what truly separates the Olympians from everyone else, and the medalists from the other Olympians. The top guys still have consistent finishes across the wind range, and it is extremely well deserved.
+1
After sailing at the Worlds in AUS I watched many of the best struggle in 25+. Flips wash offs, etc. After talking to many, all admitted to being to various degrees out of their comfort zones. But the ability to keep moving/surviving faster than the rest of us weekend warriors shows the separation in their skill set.
+1
Mark and my relationship goes way back (20+ years)and is very complicated ( I'm always right and he's always wrong)and may not be as it appears on the intarweb, but thanks for your input don't know what I'd do without your insight and helpful comments.
As you correctly deduced, I was not aware of your little tryst. Was just trying to be funny, not a third wheel. Please don't feel threatened and get Dr. Phil involved...
Mike
Don't worry, that Dr. Phil guy irritates me almost as much as Mark, if we decide to bring in a third ,you're it. <img src="<>/smirk.gif" alt="smirk" title="smirk" height="15" width="15" /> Don't want ya feeling left out.Just remember Mark gets mad if he can't wear the St. Pauli girl costume.
OK, I'd be comfortable saying that's way, way more info than any of us ever wanted to know about the two of you...
Mike