wait, you've already got the three (technically 2.5) day event (Sat-Mon). this would be an extra .5 day (Friday pm)
Fri distance, Sat buoy, Sun buoy...go home Mon.
I wouldn't want to give up the day of buoy racing.
Me neither. Half day distance race on Friday, got to set it up and shake it down anyway, good time for that in the afternoon. Put beer in a power boat at the light house, for the ride in.
3 days buoys, Sat-Monday. If you must go home and miss Monday, just say so in the registration, and use your average scores for Sat-Sun.
Oh, and have 2 shirts for the 2 up boats at registration, not
Come back when it's over and we'll see if we have enough for you...
Come back when it's over and we'll see if we have enough for you...
Do double-handed teams pay a higher registration fee?
Yes, but only get one t shirt. Why the extra money I'm not sure, there were no meals served, unless I missed that.
i can see why the
come back later if we have any left
thing... no telling who will actually show at a regatta, and you don't want to overstock SWAG.
Too bad no one seems to want to pre-register online (or even worse, pre-pay for a regatta). I suspect that doing so would solve a lot of issues for the PRO (events, sponsorship, meals, swag, support boats, budget, etc)
3 days buoys, Sat-Monday. If you must go home and miss Monday, just say so in the registration, and use your average scores for Sat-Sun.
Oh, and have 2 shirts for the 2 up boats at registration, not
Come back when it's over and we'll see if we have enough for you...
+1
Friday Distance Sat-Mon Buoys
like, a REASONABLE distance thing.... that solo teams could feasibly complete without serious concern for life/health
Not like a WPB and back run in light air...
How far was that lighthouse you were talking about?
Not far. And the only single haded guys were the 4 A cats, I'm pretty sure they can handle it.
I don't know, I'm kinda a puss-pop.
Not like a WPB and back run in light air...
How far was that lighthouse you were talking about?
about 2 miles (each way) ... so maybe we need to do 10 times around <img src="<>/crazy.gif" alt="crazy" title="crazy" height="15" width="15" />
Well...the good news is, it was so light this year, next year we should get some wind, right?
Or, should we blame it all on Obama?
No Patriots in the Super Bowl??
Thanks Obama!
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No Patriots in the Super Bowl??
Thanks Obama!
As a Pats fan my whole life, back to Schaefer Stadium, Raymond Berry, Steve Grogan and Mosi's Mooses (not to mention enduring the abuse from the entire population of my school, who rooted for teams that won, such as Miami, Dallas or Oakland); I put the blame this year squarely on Brady and Belichick. As if punting in Baltimore territory wasn't bad enough, throwing the ball away on 4th and 4, while down by two touchdowns in the final minutes of the game, with an open field in front of him, no less, just screamed that he was ready for golf...
Well, I'm sure Giselle will just throw the rest of the team under the bus again to make him feel better.
As if losing two Super Bowls to the Giants (yes, I'm blocking out McMahon and the Super Bowl shuffle idiots), Brady bailing on Bridget with his kid, and Spygate weren't enough cause for embarrassment.
It was almost easier to be a fan when they totally sucked...
Mike
You know the NFL Playoffs are as 'fixed' as any WWF match, right?
Nobody wanted to see another Super bowl with one of the Mannings, or Rogers, or Brady or Drew in it.
The NFL is an
Entertaiment Provider
just like NASCAR. They know if only a couple teams are always at the top, people stop watching.
Bring on the High Drama of the Harbaugh Brothers Bowl!
PS, my Dad had season tickets to the Boston Patriots, back when they were playing in Harvard Stadium, with Joe Kapp slinging it. Those were some cold cement seats! He couldn't give the tickets away so he made me go to watch them lose.
The Boston Patriots of 1970 were a poor-performing team and the late-arriving Kapp played poorly himself that season, leading the team to the league's worst record at 2-12. When the year ended Pete Rozelle demanded that Kapp sign a Standard Player Contract. After conferring with his lawyer and the NFL Players Association, Kapp refused to sign a new contract.
With the top pick in the 1971 NFL Draft, the Patriots selected a quarterback, Jim Plunkett of Stanford. Kapp reported to the newly-renamed New England Patriots' training camp in 1971 and was turned away. The headlines in the Boston papers read “KAPP QUITS!”. After this incident Kapp never played again, his 12 year career as a professional football player was over.
The A's race on Fri. and have for the last 7 or so years. Pretty frickin' presumptuous to expect them to change their schedule because Tradewinds got the boot at Founders and now
likes
it at the Islander.
Thanks Rick for organizing the event but at one point on the 16 course you could lay the line to A mark right of the line on port. Also as we were on the layline to A mark it was moved. Same thing also happened with C mark. Also the courses where pretty short. It took us 18 minutes and 33 seconds to do the 4x. Lastly how come every single race we did that weekend was a 4x?
One at a time:
1. Friday Racing: Pretty sure we would not be welcome to have races in the afternoon. Perhaps an unofficial romp to the lighthouse and back with a start finish of the end of the pier would be OK. But Dennis was pretty adamant about keeping the A Class area free of us. Don't think that will change any.
2. Costs and Ts: As I had mentioned before, last year I lost $1k personally to put on the regatta. Lots of costs involved. At founders the dockage for the mark boats killed us and T shirts is one of the most expensive items on the expense list. Most regattas give one shirt per boat. If you want two, you would need to buy it.
If you would preregister, you could ask for an extra shirt and even pay for it online, and many did. That was why we only gave shirts to the preregistered boats first, and for those that paid for extra shirt were give the second shirt at registration. No one had to come back, if they preregistered.
3. Wind Shifts and Marks: Indeed it was shifty and I am aware of the mistakes made on the Orange Course. I tried to monitor both courses, but when the big shifts hit I got too busy on the Yellow Course to help Warren on the Orange.., and indeed he did make some blunders.
I reviewed the errors on the Orange Course with Warren and hopefully, if he is again the PRO, he will not make them again.
come back later if we have any left
thing... no telling who will actually show at a regatta, and you don't want to overstock SWAG.
Too bad no one seems to want to pre-register online (or even worse, pre-pay for a regatta). I suspect that doing so would solve a lot of issues for the PRO (events, sponsorship, meals, swag, support boats, budget, etc)
best strategy for online pre-reg, free swag / cheaper price... works every time
Also, just wanted to thank you again Rick, amazing event that we try to do almost every year, all criticism is to help improve the event, not knock it.
understand
Also, just wanted to thank you again Rick, amazing event that we try to do almost every year, all criticism is to help improve the event, not knock it.
It's why I keep putting this event on my schedule every year... and moreso if I get a boat of my own...
Rick, Glad to see you are addressing the Race Management issues on the orange course too. We brought 6 teams from SHBCC in New Jersey and I personally love the venue and certainly vote to keep it a 3 day event, However,there were a lot of issues with the orange course, some of which have been mentioned already but I wanted to add a few more in case you did not hear about or see them.
1) As mentioned, two marks were picked up and moved during a race while we were on the layline to the mark. No change mark flag was ever used.
2) Also mentioned, Only 1 course (4x). Why not use the standard courses? There is a lot of history behind the current course cards that provide more competitive racing and allow the race committee to adjust the length of a race appropriately. The course that was set on Sunday was more like a Rick White training seminar. It is ridiculous to run 20 minute races with 6 legs (3 minute legs). The short course also put the S/F area right on the layline with a ~40 ft boat as an obstruction in the middle of the course. Tactically speaking, the B mark should not be in the first downwind leg. Give the sailors a chance to split in the first leg.
3) I'm all for starting races on time (even though I have a reputation for being late) but on Monday there was only only 1 boat actually in the starting area. It is well documented that the wind was nonexistent and not forecasted to come up so most people were caught by surprise when the wind came in. Wait another 10 minutes to let the fleet get on course. We all came to play, and it won't kill you to wait 10 min. Communicate with people on the beach. Let them know you are planning on starting. The wind was very light and it takes a long time to get to the course and the RC should be aware of that.
4) Shorten Course Flag. The last race on Sunday should have been shortened long before it finally was. And, as you know, was done in an
interesting
manner when it finally was finished (ie, no flag and a motoring boat).
5) I suggest using a different color or shape for the short mark for the Waves. A gate would be nice too but I can live without that if the B mark is not in the first downwind leg.
On a positive note, the RC did a great job of getting starts in. We did not wait at all to start the next race. Also, the guys from SHBCC gained a new appreciation for how good our race management at SHBCC is.
Also, the guys from SHBCC gained a new appreciation for how good our race management at SHBCC is.
+1