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(@Anonymous 38725)
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Not sailing because of Wives, man, do I feel their pain!

Sorry to hear that guys, but I know it well... <img src=

alt=

/> As a matter of fact, I'll be cleaning up the house and yard today instead of sailing, got to get ready for a kid's pool party tomorrow. Hopefully I can get some of the kids out sailing tomorrow so it might work out.
But this is the Tybee 500, what did they think it was? (the wives I mean) The Tybee 400?


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 9:31 am
Jake Kohl
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It's not just because of Wives - the weather has real potential to get nasty and there are no bail-out points past Saint Simmons Island. It was a team decision.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 9:56 am
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I get pretty scared when I am on a little 2 mile wide bay when thunderstorms come through. Anyone who wants to avoid that out on the open ocean ain't going to catch any crap from me. Of course, I am not of the same

cloth

as these guys <img src=

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Posted : May 16, 2008 10:03 am
(@Anonymous 37989)
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Jake, I'm relieved I won't have those teams to worry about. I really do fret about the competitors sometimes. There is not a lot of help available out there! Any idea when they might finish? Hoping Chaos can make up for lost time today, and that they all get in safely.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 10:09 am
(@Anonymous 39832)
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We just sat thru a

red

storm sitting off I95 at a really nice BBQ restaurant.

LOTS OF RAIN.

no lightning, no

damaging winds

.

The teams should be fine if they make it in before 6PM by my estimation.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 10:48 am
MaryAWells
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It's not just because of Wives - the weather has real potential to get nasty and there are no bail-out points past Saint Simmons Island. It was a team decision.

Very diplomatic of you, Jake.

Wives

was the reason given by a race official and a team member, both of whom shall remain nameless. Personally, being a

wive

myself, I think the wives should be given full credit for a common-sense decision like that. <img src=

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/>


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 11:24 am
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Wow
I was just looking at the weather.com radar and the tracking map and looks like Cat Fever is on the edge of a storm.

They have also veered off of shore a bit.

Hope they don't get in the middle of it!


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 11:49 am
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Actually it would be neat if you could overlay the radar map on the tracking map.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 11:50 am
Jake Kohl
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I think the leaders have a shot at beating the bad spot of weather headed this way. We're on Tybee Island now and seeing some occasional lightening. The really bad line of storms is expected here at around 4pm. By my estimate, it should be close.

NexRAD weather NexRAD weather


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 1:07 pm
(@Anonymous 37989)
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Tad and Jake, How much contact do you have with the crews when they're out there? Do they have to be

in line of sight

?


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 1:17 pm
Jake Kohl
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Not much contact unless there is a problem. With the wind like it is now, I doubt we'll hear anything as they're undoubtedly too busy to pick up a phone (they probably don't have a signal out there anyway. We had a short but strong line of rain and strong lightening come through Tybee just now ... from the looks of the sky, we're on the north end of it. It's going to be interesting.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 1:23 pm
MaryAWells
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What motivates a sailor more -- trying to catch the leader or trying to outrun a storm?
I picture this kind of like a skier trying to outrun an avalanche. A little extra adrenaline there.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 1:31 pm
Jake Kohl
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What motivates a sailor more -- trying to catch the leader or trying to outrun a storm?
I picture this kind of like a skier trying to outrun an avalanche. A little extra adrenalin there.

Definitely a storm. Senses are extremely heightened and you are pushing as hard as possible without flipping. Every thunderboom is another jolt of adrenaline. It's not like you weren't already sailing as fast as you could, but there's a new urgency to your sailing.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 1:37 pm
MaryAWells
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Jake, what is the stress like for ground crews on a leg like this where there is no way for the ground crews to get to their teams if there is a problem?


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 1:45 pm
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I can say from being there that you live on a different level for that time. If the weather is just

normal

weather for this race you only think of the storm in an abstract way. Where do we want to be when it hits.

Once it gets crazy you go into survival mode. I don't know how to explain it. If you find yourself questioning if you should go out. Don't. It requires you operating on a level mentally that some people just don't have.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 2:07 pm
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Looks like Team Tybee finished or is close to finishing from looking at their tracking.

Unfortunately I cannot get the Marley's tracking page to work. All I get is the following error message:

Error happened. Exceed the maximum view count for this shared page


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 3:46 pm
Jake Kohl
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Rick says; tybee in at 4:30, -t's 5:00 now and still now boats in sight. Storms holding off for now.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 3:58 pm
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Posted : May 16, 2008 4:51 pm
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I guess I don't get out much, because I just found out that the Tybee 500 website has daily pictures. Good ones, too. Who is the photographer?


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 5:03 pm
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According to the Tybee 500 official race web site, the finishers so far are Tybee, Velocity, Marley's Yellow, Marley's Orange and Cat Fever.

Sorry, but I don't have anybody at the finish beach right now.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 5:30 pm
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The race web site is also saying that Accelerated Chaos has dismasted about 11 miles south of the finish and are attempting to jury rig something so they can finish.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 5:33 pm
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Cat in the Hat is also now in, per the race web site.


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 5:37 pm
Jake Kohl
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Check this out:

Chaos sailed the last 11 miles with this rig:

[Linked Image]


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 8:41 pm
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that is awesome. I bet they had fun setting that up!


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 8:48 pm
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necessity is the mother of invention. We limped across the finish line, but we made it. The last 11.2 miles were some of the funnest sailing I have ever done. We were surfing down waves, running the kite off of the spin pole mast, and enjoying every moment thinking... 'This is what the tybee500 is all about, finish at all costs'. Will post more later, but for now, its hit the town and get the drink on!
Chris


 
Posted : May 16, 2008 8:54 pm
(@Anonymous 38725)
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Chris, great job! I'm glad someone got a picture, nice looking rig, good thing the wind was from the back not the front!

What was the fastest speeds you guys (all you guys) saw on the entire race, from the Keys all the way up? The GPS plotters were great but didn't show speeds. Nobody gave total distances either so I couldn't figure the averages.


 
Posted : May 17, 2008 7:26 am
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That is going to be one famous photo!


 
Posted : May 17, 2008 1:49 pm
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Episode 3 - Hollywood Start video is posted!

http://www.catsailor.com/VideoPlayer.html

Also on MySpace:
http://www.MySpace.com/adventureonlinetv (click on video page link)

Be sure to add Adventure Online as a friend on MySpace and you will be instantly notified when new videos are posted.


 
Posted : May 17, 2008 10:53 pm
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What was the fastest speeds you guys (all you guys) saw on the entire race, from the Keys all the way up? The GPS plotters were great but didn't show speeds. Nobody gave total distances either so I couldn't figure the averages.

Alan's GPS read 28 knots for a max the whole race. With some of the wind they had on the last two days, I can believe it.

As for elapsed time/distance, the Jupiter to Cocoa leg the guys sailed abour 125, 130 miles.

They did it in 10.5 hours on the nose the whole time.


 
Posted : May 18, 2008 8:48 am
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BK great third episode, awesome footage of the guys on Marleys Orange.

Speeds: Jackson's GPS had a max of 36 but I don't believe it, but there were long stretches where we would average 19-20 sustained. Day six toward the end we were flying like dolphins at seaworld, up until we stuffed the whole boat in a wave and wreckaged when the wind kicked up to 40 sustained. Great day of sailing the last third of the leg!

Happy epilogue: At the end of day 5 when we went a little long on a gybe and wiped out in the surf, we lost the whole rudder assembly as well as the mast breakage. Today, on the way home from Tybee, we went back to Fernandina, I put on a wet suit and swim goggles, and dredged our landing zone hoping to trip over the rudder assembly (and not a shark!). With the goggles on however I couldn't even see a foot in front of me, despite an offshore wind with low tide and minimal surf. Finally giving up, we then reached the lifeguards who were posted at the beach where the race finished. There were 5 of them there, and one of them, Cindy, said she saw a rudder 2 miles north sticking up in the sand. I asked her if she would drive me down there on the beach and she agreed. A mile in, there on the left, was my other rudder, crossbar and tiller extension completely intact. A mile further we came upon the rudder she saw. All told all that was broken was one lower bracket and one rubber connector doohickey. I was completely psyched. Pam said the rudders were trying to catch up with the boat in Tybee, but just couldn't make it.

All and all a great race this year with generally excellent wind, 3.5 days of spin runs, 1 day on the nose with a fast close reach finish and one day of screaming beam reaching in difficult variable winds.

Our goal is to get 20 boats to the start line next year, so if you've done the race before but have been sitting out lately, or if you want to take a run at the best race we have going, please sign up at tybee500.com. I'm happy to answer any new teams questions either here, or through a pm, or over at 1design.net.

may the four winds blow you safely home...


 
Posted : May 18, 2008 11:34 pm
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