Any one in the Pacific Northwest want to
Help
or
Volunteer
with the Pothole Warm Up at Potholes reservoir. The first of our Youth Series, the kids will be out sailing Waves April 4-6.
Its just a warm up sail so there will not be any racing exaxtly, just kids out on the boats having fun.
We need beach captains to help them on and off the beach and safety boat drivers.
Show up spend half of the day volunteering and have fun. It doesn't require your whole weekend.
Thanks
If you are interested email me at
mikehensel220(at)msn(dot)com
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and
volunteer
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OK, here's a way:
There will be three open positions on the One-Design Class Council Executive Committee this fall. Any one design class (including catamarans) is part of the ODCC, therefore they are eligible to sit at the table and be a part of the ODCC.
As of today, the following catamaran classes belong to US Sailing:
A Class
Corsair 28
F-16
F-18
Hobie 16
Hobie 17
Hobie 20
Hobie Tiger
Isotope
Mystere 4.3
NACRA
Reynolds 33
Shark
SL 16
Tornado
Wave
I represent the Hobie Classes on the ODCC - the rest are fair game. If you want to help, contact the ODCC Nominating Committee:
Tom Hubbell - hubbellthomas@ussailing.net
Patty Lawrence - p.lawrence@fuse.net
James Appel - JamesAppel2010@comcast.net
BTW, I sent all the contacts for the classes listed above an e-mail yesterday, requesting they give me their proxy for the meeting. Thus far, I have not received even one response. How can we effect change if we don't participate in the process?
We did not get an e-mail from you for the Wave Class.
I will continue with my USSA membership for the simple reason of supporting the MHC mission.
Check your PM's
Okay if no one else is going to ask this then I am going to.... why is a guy from Thailand saying he is not going to renew his UNITED STATES sailing association membership? US Sailing is the national governing body for sailing in the US!
Okay, maybe membership is open to those from other countries, but I think in terms of this poll, there is an incredible bias coming from other parts of the world. If he's not a member, he's putting negative propaganda into the minds who are reading this thread and voting.
That'd be like someone from Iraq telling us that the war in Iraq is wrong! Slightly different perspective.
Those who are encouraging us to step up and volunteer have the right idea! US Sailing has everything in place needed to encourage sailing, whether it be keelboats, multihulls, or etc. People like John Williams are exactly what we need, they are capitalizing on the opportunities presented by the organization. There are no other viable organizations out there with the type of resources that US Sailing provides us and the rest of the sailing community. Turning our back on the organization would be turning our back to those resources. I'd like to see some other organization come up with similar resources, it would take a tremendous effort and in my eyes would not be possible. I am not trying to start a debate, simply state my opinion which is in order to get what we want out of this organization we have to support it! If they do us wrong, we have to step up as we have and let them know! We can't always get what we want but that's life, that doesn't give you a right to give up.
Dude, take a pill!
You have no idea about the guy's details...he may be a US citizen living/stationed out side the US...yes, this does happen!
Propaganda?!?! Geez, what's wrong with raising issues to be discussed? Just 'cuz you don't like his stance doesn't make it propaganda.
I'm not a US citizen, but I am a member of US Sailing...wrap your head around that one if you can.
Can't see how an Iraqi telling the US that the invasion of their country was wrong has any bearing this discussion.
Okay, maybe membership is open to those from other countries, but I think in terms of this poll, there is an incredible bias coming from other parts of the world. If he's not a member, he's putting negative propaganda into the minds who are reading this thread and voting.
That'd be like someone from Iraq telling us that the war in Iraq is wrong! Slightly different perspective.
Those who are encouraging us to step up and volunteer have the right idea! US Sailing has everything in place needed to encourage sailing, whether it be keelboats, multihulls, or etc. People like John Williams are exactly what we need, they are capitalizing on the opportunities presented by the organization. There are no other viable organizations out there with the type of resources that US Sailing provides us and the rest of the sailing community. Turning our back on the organization would be turning our back to those resources. I'd like to see some other organization come up with similar resources, it would take a tremendous effort and in my eyes would not be possible. I am not trying to start a debate, simply state my opinion which is in order to get what we want out of this organization we have to support it! If they do us wrong, we have to step up as we have and let them know! We can't always get what we want but that's life, that doesn't give you a right to give up.
I think you took my post a little out of context.
I was trying to make a point that negative statements or positive statements for that matter should not be associated with any poll of this sort.
For one, by polling people outside the true sample you are creating an allowance for a large sample error.
Also, the bias created by people who are not truly part of the polling sample will create more of a margin for error. That was my point with the Iraq statement... it was a comparison with no direct bearing on this discussion.
Okay.. maybe my point was out of place as this is an opinion poll and thread, anyone has the right to speak up... However, I feel like there has been plenty of discussion on this subject in other threads and to discuss it in association with a poll may be affecting the results.
I did intend to create any ill will and I apologize if you took it that way.
I chose to bring up an issue to discuss just as everyone else in this thread, I did not realize the manner in which I was bringing it up would cause such a response.
anyone that is seriously trying to analyze the
sample error
of a poll on the internet needs to understand how easily these things are manipulated.
Especially with this forum software, its a simple matter of writing a 5 line script to vote 10, 100, 1000 times.
True, gathering arguements for/against the issue was not the intended purpose of this poll...but I'm OK with it.
Yes, this may affect the poll outcome to some extent...but that's OK too...if a person is sitting on the fence about the issue and reads (re-reads) the points made here, causing a shift one way or the other...that's great.
Yes, this poll is completely vunerable to sabotage...but it's just an informal measure. We're not going to change the world with it.
I was trying to make a point that negative statements or positive statements for that matter should not be associated with any poll of this sort.
For one, by polling people outside the true sample you are creating an allowance for a large sample error.
Also, the bias created by people who are not truly part of the polling sample will create more of a margin for error. That was my point with the Iraq statement... it was a comparison with no direct bearing on this discussion.
Okay.. maybe my point was out of place as this is an opinion poll and thread, anyone has the right to speak up... However, I feel like there has been plenty of discussion on this subject in other threads and to discuss it in association with a poll may be affecting the results.
I did intend to create any ill will and I apologize if you took it that way.
I chose to bring up an issue to discuss just as everyone else in this thread, I did not realize the manner in which I was bringing it up would cause such a response.