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USA gets a Nacra 17 slot for RIO!!

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yea the dsq seemed silly... a port starboard with another US boat.... they just calculate the boat speed and time and agree with starboard.


 
Posted : January 28, 2016 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by brucat
Some interesting protests in other classes too:
http://www.sailing.org/worldcup/protest-summary.php

Thanks for the link. It is an interesting read.

Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
yea the dsq seemed silly... a port starboard with another US boat.... they just calculate the boat speed and time and agree with starboard.

What do you think is silly about the port/starboard protest? The jury found that Starboard took avoiding action, and given the speeds of the boats and how close they came, it seems evident that Port did not keep clear.

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Eric


 
Posted : January 28, 2016 5:25 pm
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ah sorry....I think Port was being silly.... If they thought they get across by a foot or so...just silly. at speed... with 4 races a day... a collision is a regatta ender... why would starboard be ANYTHING but cautious. Port should have ducked. especially against a US boat... This is a zero sum game for the two of them but starboard has rights.

Port obviously thought that starbord pulled the plug on the cross too quickly and they could make that case in the jury room.

Moreover, Since they chose not to do their circle... It probably wasn't a brain freeze or... failure to spot the starbord boat...

So... just silly of port to push this protest to the jury room and not take their penalty turn.


 
Posted : January 28, 2016 5:55 pm
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Just got off the phone with David. Super bummed for him and Arielle- daggerboard ripped a nice hole through their hull today and he is done for Miami and Worlds. Crappy way to end the week.


 
Posted : January 28, 2016 7:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
yea the dsq seemed silly... a port starboard with another US boat.... they just calculate the boat speed and time and agree with starboard.

It is a pretty good technique that most novice judges miss. Especially helpful when you can get the sailors to agree on wind and wave conditions and boat speed. You really don't need expert knowledge of sailing the actual boats with techniques like this. Helps at mark roundings as well.

Mike


 
Posted : January 28, 2016 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Jeff.Dusek
Just got off the phone with David. Super bummed for him and Arielle- daggerboard ripped a nice hole through their hull today and he is done for Miami and Worlds. Crappy way to end the week.

Did they hit something, or did the boat self-destruct? Why can't that be fixed before Worlds?

Mike


 
Posted : January 28, 2016 8:49 pm
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Yikes, Bora and Louisa got an OCS and a 33 and freefell to 7th.

Meanwhile, Besson ripped off two bullets and is clawing his way up from the depths of the fleet. What was he doing wrong all week before today?

Mike


 
Posted : January 28, 2016 8:53 pm
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It wouldn't be high-performance sailing without something like this happening, either. Would it.

https://www.facebook.com/eastonpettibonesailing/posts/721479014618386


 
Posted : January 28, 2016 10:30 pm
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Wow! Wait, who polishes their boat at a regatta ???

I've washed mine if it's just been pulled out after the winter, but polished???

I guess that's why they're Olympic contenders and we're not...

Good luck today!!!

Mike


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by brucat
Wow! Wait, who polishes their boat at a regatta ???

I've washed mine if it's just been pulled out after the winter, but polished???

I guess that's why they're Olympic contenders and we're not...

Good luck today!!!

Mike

I knew a guy that didn't want his hulls touched at any time during a weekend regatta. Otherwise the skin oils would contaminate the go-fastery of the polished hulls.


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by brucat
Wow! Wait, who polishes their boat at a regatta ???

I've washed mine if it's just been pulled out after the winter, but polished???

I guess that's why they're Olympic contenders and we're not...

Good luck today!!!

Mike

I knew a guy that didn't want his hulls touched at any time during a weekend regatta. Otherwise the skin oils would contaminate the go-fastery of the polished hulls.

The mental discipline it would require to not mess with that guy would be off the chart!


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by brucat
They are sailing reasonably consistently (extremely consistently compared to the bulk of the fleet), and are enjoying the rewards of that.

Mendelblatts got the Q in the last race yesterday. Some interesting protests in other classes too:

http://www.sailing.org/worldcup/protest-summary.php

Mike

While that reads as a clear port/stb violation, in other situations can the Stb boat still draw a foul if

hunting

the port boat?


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 11:53 am
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Jake
Originally Posted by brucat
Wow! Wait, who polishes their boat at a regatta ???

I've washed mine if it's just been pulled out after the winter, but polished???

I guess that's why they're Olympic contenders and we're not...

Good luck today!!!

Mike

I knew a guy that didn't want his hulls touched at any time during a weekend regatta. Otherwise the skin oils would contaminate the go-fastery of the polished hulls.

The mental discipline it would require to not mess with that guy would be off the chart!

Hah!


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 1:21 pm
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more then that.... laughed my butt off... Not sure what was funnier... the boat park scene... or the notion of seeing Dave exercising the required level of mental restraint!


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 1:30 pm
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Inside jokes aside for the moment...

There's currently a tie for first overall!!!

Besson has had some sort of issue and appears to be off the water.

Bora and Louisa have slipped a bit more, still hanging in the top 10.

Mike


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 3:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
mo Not sure what was funnier... the boat park scene... or the notion of seeing Dave exercising the required level of mental restraint!

totally the latter...

Dave

&

restraint

are usually not found in the same sentence.. But that's why we love the big guy now, isn't it?


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 3:39 pm
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Who are the Brits going to send... they have 4 teams in the top 20.... Spain has two teams in the top 10. Australia already made their choice and moved on from the legend that is Bundy (Waterhouse is a second generation cat sailor)

It looks like Bora dropped out of the medal round... so it will be a battle between Bora and the medelabrats for the US slot at the clearwater worlds coming up. my theory about cat/skiff experience at a young age is looking tenuous.


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 4:04 pm
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...so there's hope for our raise our own yout development program after all???

Mike


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 6:19 pm
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Wow, what a harsh last day for Bora and Louisa. Looking forward to seeing how they can improve going forward!

Top 3 are extremely close going into the medal race! Will there be any sort of live coverage of that?

Can any of you Florida dudes hop onto a boat with some binoculars and a smart phone, and get us some real-time bootleg mark roundings from the spectator fleet area?

Mike


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 6:26 pm
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i think the medal rounds are to be televised on espn3... (I remember seeing this notice... so... YMMV)


 
Posted : January 29, 2016 7:05 pm
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There is a link to a YouTube page that says it will show live medal races on Saturday, January 30, with the Nacra 17 at 11:10 am. However, as of 9:00 am the page says

The uploader has not made this video available in your country.

Maybe that will change by 11:09

Live medal racing on YouTube

Check out the links on this page at Sailing.org for tracking and mark roundings on Saturday. These pages look very cool! I hope they fill in the tables of mark roundings in real time.

Tracking

UPDATE:
Too bad that the N17 does not show tracking for previous races. Look at what they CAN do by going to the Tracking page above, scroll down and click on

Miami 2016 3D Viewer

, load their viewer, and pick one of the 470 races that had tracking turned on. Once you figure out the many screen choices you can watch the entire race, follow any boat, zoom in or out, pivot, see all the gaps, add lines, everything. The only thing I couldn't do is see why a leading boat is labeled DFL (probably due to an unlabeled DSQ).


 
Posted : January 30, 2016 9:27 am
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It's showing on ESPN3 at 11:00 EST. Anybody can watch ESPN3.
Watch ESPN


 
Posted : January 30, 2016 10:16 am
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Youtube is geo blocked in the US

We are to use ESPN3 and you need your cable provider login and password.

From 11 a.m. (EST), onSaturday January 30, the Medal Races from Sailing World Cup Miami presented by Sunbrella will be broadcast live on the World Sailing TV YouTube channel as well as ESPN3 in the USA. Please note that the YouTube feed will be geo-blocked in the United States.The Key Links are:
ESPN3 – http://espn.go.com/watchespn/index/_/id/2754788/2016-world-sailing-cup
World Sailing TV YouTube URL –

World Sailing TV YouTube Embed – Seven races will be broadcast live from the northern racing area on Biscayne Bay in Miami, Fla. The schedule in EST is available below:NORTH COURSE – LIVE
11:10 – Nacra 17
11:45 – Laser Radial
12:30 – Finn
13:10 – 470 Men
13:50 – Laser
14:30 – 49er
15:05 – 49erFXSOUTH COURSE
11:40 – 470 Women
12:20 – RS:X Women
12:55 – RS:X Men—Stuart Streuli, Sailing World Cup Miami, & Daniel Smith, World Sailing
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Posted : January 30, 2016 10:24 am
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Mark,
unless ESPN has changed something, you do not need a cable subscription or login to watch ESPN3. Never have.


 
Posted : January 30, 2016 10:43 am
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don't have espn3 on the cable box... but you can watch on line with the cable subscriptino... (Fios) Its up and running now


 
Posted : January 30, 2016 11:06 am
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I think Argentine tried to port tack the fleet and did not make it..


 
Posted : January 30, 2016 11:12 am
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Nice job with the on the water coverage!... the aussies fouled before the start and could not recover enough boats... finished in silver with the Dutch taking 3rd in the medal race for the win overall.


 
Posted : January 30, 2016 11:48 am
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I wasn't able to watch it live, is it available for replay?

Mike


 
Posted : January 30, 2016 4:10 pm
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Saw the second half of the race live. Great way to kill off any interest in racing fast catamarans. Horrendous commentary (Jobson needs to be replaced... asking if they can furl the jib downwind... really?) and a schedule that put the 17s early in the day before a decent chance of a seabreeze. Really disappointing, but not surprising.

On the plus side, the video was ok.


 
Posted : January 30, 2016 4:40 pm
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Welcome to the club, Jeff. I've developed a set of serious love/detest feelings for Jobson, started at the ACWS in Newport, went off the charts at the AC in San Fran. He's done so much for the sport, but should never be allowed near a mic for a multihull broadcast...

Mike


 
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