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(@Anonymous 13024)
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Ref: http://www.kapaza.be/Watersport_en_boten/Catamarans/3017451/Prototype_F16.html

Says in the text that its an 125kg F-16 prototype without spi but with kick up daggers? Or are my language skills worse than I tought?
Anybody who knows the history behind the boat and what kind of design it is? 125Kgs is more than a bit on the heavy side for an F-16, isn't it? Even if the Spitfires are fast..


 
Posted : March 27, 2007 1:06 pm
Gilo
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Hi Rolf,

That boat is already one year or more on the site....

Regards,
Gill


 
Posted : March 27, 2007 1:18 pm
(@Anonymous 13024)
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Really? I tought the ad said that it was posted 5 days ago?


 
Posted : March 27, 2007 1:25 pm
Gilo
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No really,

Almost one year ago we started looking for a new (used) boat and that boat was already on the site.
At the end of the season we sold an old sail and it was still on the site ....

Gill


 
Posted : March 27, 2007 1:32 pm
(@Anonymous 13024)
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Sounds like a real

stayer

then <img src=

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/> I am not shopping, but have friends who are looking.

But it would still be interesting to hear more about this.. prototype?


 
Posted : March 27, 2007 1:34 pm
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It looks a lot like a Hydra don't you think?

[Linked Image]

I wasn't aware of its' existence - does anyone know anything about it?


 
Posted : March 27, 2007 2:29 pm
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It is a cobra from the company Australcobrai. I know the whole story but it is not one I can tell in a public place like this forum. Suffice to say that this boat is the only Cobra F16 in Europe and most likely the only one in the world. The company no longer exist, early on they took the wrong business choice and folded.

Wouter


 
Posted : March 28, 2007 3:57 am
Marcus F16
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Wouter,

Is it any relation to the timber Cobra's that were built here in AUS.??

I should say - used to be built here, the class has diminished somewhat over the years, but looks a lot like the boat in the pic.

Marcus


 
Posted : March 29, 2007 3:02 am
(@Anonymous 14038)
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Marcus,
When you look at the combined timber and glass Cobras built I think the numbers are a few hundred maybe mid 500s..

John,
At first glance the Hydra and Cobra do look a little similar. The Cobra being designed by a Mosquito builder so it has been assumed the design was based on the Mosquito.
Althouh it is a little heavier than the Mossie.

Some of the differences:-
The Hydra is a single trap boat while Cobra is double.
Also the Hydra main sail is very much a pin head while the Cobra has a very roachy head to the main. The Hydra was only a glass production boat and heavier again than the Cobra. While the Cobra could be built in timber or glass.

The Cobra was built in glass commercially by both Peter Fletcher (designer) and Peter Cherry back in the 70s and 80s.
The Cherry boats were great boats double vacuumed and came out around 10kg below min weight (ie platform with boards probably around 70kg) which would be much lighter that this one.
I'm pretty sure the boat in the pic was built in the Cherry moulds but not by him as he had stopped building Cobras many years before.

In fact I was visiting the factory that built this boat
the day it was being pulled from the mould.
I was told at the time that it was bound for Europe.
Not many yellow ones as you needs heaps of (heavy) gel coat
to get a solid colour.

Ain't it a small world.

Regards,
Phill


 
Posted : March 31, 2007 1:43 am
 Matt
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It sure is..

Great info thanks... <img src=

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/> anyway what do you mean by double vacuumed and how does that work?


 
Posted : March 31, 2007 2:35 am
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