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(@gbyrd)
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I found a Nacra 5.0 for sale for a whopping $50. It is complete but hasn't been sailed in years. I feel a soft spot on the outside of the hull that is about 2'x1'. It is worth it for the price in parts but I don't have an infinite amount of time to work on it...Finding a boat has been a real challenge and I'd prefer to spend 2k on a ready to go setup but I only have about 2 or 3 months of good weather left this year so I want to get out on the water as soon as I can.

I previously owned a 5.0 about 10 years ago and enjoyed it. However, I bought that boat in excellent condition pretty much sight unseen. What do I need to look at to see what could be a difficult or expensive fix. I haven't seen the title yet but I think he said it was an earlier 80s boat.

I am going to get a much better look at it Saturday. including the sails and whatever suggestions you guys have. I can supply pictures too if it'd be at all helpful.


 
Posted : September 15, 2016 3:33 pm
tim nell
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I'll give you $60 for it


 
Posted : September 15, 2016 4:39 pm
(@gbyrd)
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Lol. I'm considering buying it for next year. But I need a more thorough assessment...pretty much told him I'd take it already.


 
Posted : September 15, 2016 4:48 pm
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Sounds like someone wants the boat gone from their yard...you could offer to tow it away for free.

Serioucly? $50? If it has one good rudder it's worth more.


 
Posted : September 15, 2016 4:50 pm
(@Anonymous 32247)
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This sounds like arbitrage opportunity to me. It is also amazing to me that boats we all know are fun and competent can get so ignored.

Probably sound like the Curmudgeon on another sailing website, but we all do need to promote our sport and these old boats. They are, as we all know good fun in small packages.

dg


 
Posted : September 15, 2016 6:25 pm
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I have found the best way to find flaws in the hulls is to hand wash and polish them. Yes it's a lot of work but you end up pushing on the entire surface with your fingertips.


 
Posted : September 16, 2016 5:01 am
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or sand off the gelcoat so you can see if the problem is superficial, or actually needs some attention.
dg


 
Posted : September 16, 2016 7:33 pm
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I think I could feel soft spots and de lams without going to that much effort. If I had to remove all the gelcoat I might consider the hulls a write off.


 
Posted : September 17, 2016 7:35 am
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The first question is what year? 1983's were not foam sandwich. 1985's were and the manufacturer in the hull number was different. if not foam, the stringers have broken loose. Where the spot is matters, in a high stress area like near the front beam you will need to be able to trust your repair a lot. you will need to pop the desks or add a port to get to it and "glue" the stringer back onto the hull. If foam, then i think you inject from the outside.


 
Posted : September 17, 2016 12:47 pm
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If it is an early boat as Flyhull points out the repair is actually pretty simple. I was reluctant to to "pop" the deck off my 5.2, but it only took a few minutes of work with two wide putty or drywall knifes and it was off. Glassing over cracked stringers, if that is the problem would take maybe 20 minutes and using epoxy and 6 oz cloth you could make the stringer be stronger than the new condition. The real work is sorting out reattaching the deck satisfactorily and there is lots of good info on that procedure here in several of the technical photo albums. The only downside is that most of us are using a thickened epoxy to reattach the decks and that means no popping them off easily in the future.

If it were a newer cored boat I think the work would be more involved, but could be sorted out well enough. Again I think there is some good info here in the technical albums to sort through those steps.

Playing with these materials to do these repairs is not that difficult. If you played with paper and paste in Kindergarten you have the skills needed to do these kinds of repairs. Just do a little homework so you know what to expect and work through the steps.

Here is the video I did when I blew the decks off my boat.

dg


 
Posted : September 17, 2016 7:11 pm
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Thank quys. Haven't bought it yet. He couldn't find the title but said he'd look during the week or get another one from txpwd. I felt around a lot on the boat today and I am not sure how to identify a soft spot....there are areas where the hull gives a little but it is symmetrical with the other hull..I'll load up the pictures in a bit.


 
Posted : September 18, 2016 3:28 pm
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Edited by gbyrd on Sep 18, 2016 - 10:32 PM.


 
Posted : September 18, 2016 3:50 pm
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.there are areas where the hull gives a little but it is symmetrical with the other hull.

Those early boats are solid glass, not as stiff as the cored ones. It is normal to find some "oilcanning" on the sides. It is very noticeable if you flip the boat, when standing on the sides to right it.
You need to upload the full size image, however, for $60, buy it, NOW, along with the other one you were looking at. Build one boat, the other will keep you in parts.
It looks neglected, but it is surprising how well they clean up. Powerwash it, including the tramp, then get it on the water. It will probably need standing & running rigging, plus bungee for rudders.
Sail the crap out of it, then this winter either wet sand, or buy a good grade multispeed power polisher, & a gallon of 3M, or West marine brand cutting compound. Disassemble, so you can work on horizontal surfaces, & have at 'er.
Make an album & post hi res photos.

Edited by Edchris177 on Sep 19, 2016 - 12:37 AM.


 
Posted : September 18, 2016 6:18 pm
David George
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Sail the crap out of it, then this winter either wet sand, or buy a good grade multispeed power polisher, & a gallon of 3M, or West marine brand cutting compound.

I agree! As long as it does not take in water, clean it, use it and have fun. Taking the time to try to make an old relic perfect is time you are not sailing. And Relic is what my sail maker calls my fully restored 1990 Nacra.


 
Posted : September 19, 2016 7:27 pm
David George
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Also bring a grease gun for the bearings to get you home.

Edited by davidsd on Sep 20, 2016 - 01:34 AM.


 
Posted : September 19, 2016 7:29 pm
(@Anonymous 32247)
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Geez a 1990 Nacra is hardly a relic, barely even a late model.

dg


 
Posted : September 19, 2016 7:51 pm
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Also bring a grease gun for the bearings to get you home.

A good idea. Once you get her home, clean and re-pack the hubs with new grease because you might have mixed the grease types.


 
Posted : September 20, 2016 6:25 am
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The shrouds and mast have a lot of corrosion. Any suggestions for new shrouds/halyard? Going to drill wire wheel the corroded stuff on the mast to get a better look but is there anything else I should do?

Can't do anything with it in Texas until I get s title though...


 
Posted : September 20, 2016 8:01 am
tim nell
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With ANY sign of corrosion on on the shrouds I would personally replace all of the standing rigging.


 
Posted : September 20, 2016 8:10 am
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