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the missus snapped this one, as you can see the mast rake is well up there
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Posted : January 3, 2014 7:47 am
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rudders were an absolute mess, god only knows how many coats of varnish had been applied over the years and even after 3 coats of industrial paint stripper there was still varnish to be found....

This is AFTER the paint stripper !!!

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deep sanding trenches were also uncovered, gotta hate orbital sanders
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Posted : January 8, 2014 7:08 am
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after some serious sanding, a bit of wet n dry sanding we had....

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Posted : January 8, 2014 7:10 am
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Rudder in place with the 4 hard-wood dowels glued in

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closer view of the dowel

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Since this pic was taken the dowels have been countersunk and the resulting cavity has been resined up, sealing them in entirely !!

I seriously hope I never have to remove the plates from the boards, it will be easier to burn them and collect what's left
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Posted : January 8, 2014 7:15 am
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lock-down plates ready for a test fit....

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they a re a bit like chainsaw teeth in their shape and there's a reason for that shape, one side holds the locking shaft and the other side holds it centrally so it cant slip out sideways from the lock.

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in this pic you can see the interference of the lock pin to the tooth, with the flexible glass rod between the rudder and the lock it snaps in and out with a similar noise like a mousetrap going off
Its also very easy to lock and un-lock one-handed, and yet cant unlock itself

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Posted : January 8, 2014 7:24 am
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the final stage of the dummy fit and test runs.....

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this has now all be securely fixed to the arm and the entire rudder system is now fully functioning including the lock-up teeth.
pics to come later
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Posted : January 8, 2014 7:27 am
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all in place and working ....

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and the best bit......

the flex in the glass rod is really good, I can get the blade out to ~45degrees and it may well go a lot further before it snaps.
Yeah the photo isn't anywhere near 45degrees but I was balancing on one foot and using the other foot to push the blade out and the resistance was beating me, this was the best focused pic I got after half a dozen attempts.... & my leg got tired
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I think seaweed and other hidden underwater objects wont be an issue like they would have been with the old system, even other systems like the rope and cleat would be damaged or cause damage if such things are struck....

Very happy with it.... <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />

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Now its all assembled and working I already have design changes in mind where I can make it work for me much better..... that system will go onto Jurassic Karp
I can easily modify this one to the new line thinking so again 1182 will be the test-bench for Jurassic Karp.
The simple bit is I only have to change 1 part and slightly modify another to achieve what I have in mind.
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Posted : January 9, 2014 3:52 pm
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sail-box is finished <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />
it will get a sand and re-coat when the decks are replaced.

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Only one thing left to do

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Posted : January 9, 2014 3:57 pm
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get it wet

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Posted : January 9, 2014 4:03 pm
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handing your smart phone over to elderly people doesn't always work that well, I got lots of picks of fingers / sand / the dogs butt / more fingers / & ...... half a dozen 3sec videos of the same
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Ideal day..... very light winds to start off with, and they freshened up after a couple of hours, we flew hulls later in the afternoon and got that distinctive mosquito hum through the wires.
As evening approached the winds stepped it up another notch and we got wet from the spray and found some very interesting angles.
For Andrew (#2 son and crew), it was his first time out on a boat and he enjoyed every minute of it, even the trap work and getting drenched from the spray as the cooler winds swept through...

yeah.... Ideal day

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Posted : January 9, 2014 4:21 pm
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Good to see it all worked out, even better your crew enjoyed it.

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Posted : January 9, 2014 4:27 pm
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We put just over 6 hours on the water and it was only a guilt thing that made us come in eventually and we were both suprised at the lateness of the day, time flew allright ....
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The boat performed perfectly, the rudder system worked a treat and the handling was absolutely spot on, we did however have a failure with the jib track which is an easy fix and some stitching at the front of the tramp has begun the slow self-distruct thing

After 6 hours we had less then half a cup of water in each hull <img src="<>/shocked.gif" alt="shocked" title="shocked" height="15" width="15" />
I was shocked at this, the old girl is actually very water proof despite her crusty old decks and not so well fitting hatch covers.

immediate changes -> rake mast further forward another hole on the adjuster. replace boom-vang rope, check threads on hatch covers.

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The trailer also needs one small change, the one bit I totally forgot to do.
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other than that..... I'm going sailing

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Posted : January 9, 2014 4:46 pm
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Congratulations Kingy, beautiful job! have been watching this thread every day and admiring your handy work. I love the way you have documented the rebuild and hopefully it will help others who travel the same path.


 
Posted : January 9, 2014 5:33 pm
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I have also enjoyed following your progress. These days not many people have the skills, knowledge and equipment that you have to take on refurbishment of a couple of old clapped out mosquitos and bring them back to life. Well done....


 
Posted : January 9, 2014 6:02 pm
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Congratulations on your first day of Pennant racing
on twice shy, the green looked good sailing around our little
lake in derrinallum and will be even better if we can get all 5 mozzies on the water!!!The wind was a bit all over the shop but hey, that's lake sailing. <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" /> youve got a good old mozzie for next to nothing I reckon!
See ya next Sunday
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Posted : January 12, 2014 1:24 am
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Originally Posted by Al_scorpion1101
..... The wind was a bit all over the shop ......

I've never encountered the situation where 2 boats can be on the same leg and less than 20metres apart, and yet one is pointing hard and the other is at broard reach and yet both are traveling at the same speed
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Never run up underneath a tiapan and undertaken them and beat them to the mark only to round the mark and watch helplessly as they sail straight past you less than 10metres away and I'm the windward boat
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That extra lap I did after the last siren was 1/3rd of the time of any of the other laps for the whole day. The lake's wind god obviously wasn't anywhere near me until it didn't matter

I'm going to make a blood sacrifice to the lake wind god next sunday to appease him <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />

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Posted : January 12, 2014 6:27 am
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I think you will find Phil, has it written in the constitution that the wind will not treat you well at Deep Lake until you have sailed there for at least a season!

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Posted : January 12, 2014 10:50 pm
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Spot on Ross! Haha
We sailed in the same breeze too but
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Posted : January 13, 2014 2:50 am
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She's still floating..... and we're still on the water as much as often as we can. But its not been without issues, we've broken several things and most have been largely due to the weathering of various components, some I did think were a little average but

serviceable

..... and I was caught out

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The list:

1/ Endless jib sheet block
plastic covered block snapped clean in half, what got me was the other one had the visible crack and that was the one I though would go....

2/ Mast top pulley
bit of a no-no when the main sail suddenly falls to the deck
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3/ Mainsail
nearly tore the out-haul shackle point out of the clew due to the corroded brass eyelet failing

4/ Mainsail
head, again another about to tear out shackle point and again that corroded brass eyelet is the culprit

5/ Boom-vang
Snapped rope, it was suspect anyway and I knew it was well past its use-by date

6/ Port foot strap
stitching let go, this I didn't expect nor was the almost swimming result, thankfully the tiller arm is strong
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7/ Trampoline
torn leading edge and several small areas of stitching along the sides started to fail, and then rapidly those areas grew !
$40 to re-stitch the entire tramp and fit a new leading edge = BARGIN
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The weathered stitching has been the one that caught me out the most, the other minor problems like the mast filling with water by a combination of corrosion around the rivets and open rivets, most of these have been fixed asap once I'm aware of them......

The shackle points on the main sail were really a failure of the pressed in brass eyelets, these have corroded significantly and put all the load onto the plastic load plate.... we simply cut some thin stainless to the same shape as the original plastic load plate and glued/riveted it back in place, works a treat.

Jurassic Karp's beach rollers have been repaired and are now rolling us around with ease, I even found an easy way to hang them on the trailer
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I machined up new plastic bushes that eliminated the need for a sand seal and they also tightened up the play that existed in the old bushes.
The arms that the boat actually sits on were also modified with some alloy sheet and flat refrigeration foam.

The only thing I think I need asap is that sailbox.... I've ordered the material and am still waiting.... xmas break is over guys, come on and get my order happening !!!!

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Originally Posted by No Turbulence
I think you will find Phil, has it written in the constitution that the wind will not treat you well at Deep Lake until you have sailed there for at least a season!

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interestingly enough......

Race 1
I (sailing solo) got bytch-slapped big time..... out on the trap haulin butt, big gust coming, ease the main, and point her up a tad as the gust hits.......
the main inverts and I actually pull the boat over onto myself thus assisting the willy-willy gust

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I have no idea as to how long Alan and I spent trying to right her but it physically sapped me..... MODIFICATIONS TO COME <img src="<>/mad.gif" alt="mad" title="mad" height="15" width="15" />

Race 2
Phil and crew gets bytch-slapped by the same willy-willy

seems the lake god is female and doesn't care who she takes her curse out on

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Posted : January 28, 2014 3:53 pm
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As has been the standard with this old girl since her re-floating....

more failures from old weathered bits <img src="<>/sick.gif" alt="sick" title="sick" height="15" width="15" />

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this was the one that had the slow leak, down to 10psi every w/end after sitting for the weak. I did tank the tyre but couldn't find a leak....
This blowout happened about 20miles from home on a stinking hot day (last Sunday), started of as a bit of a bulge that caused a slight vibration through the trailer, we slowed down as it got worse.......
Wasn't worth stopping as I didn't have a spare for the trailer, its an old stud pattern and so 'limp home' mode was selected.

We kept a very close eye on it as the tyre fell apart and the speed was dropped several times as it worsened, we eventually made the my street at a rapid rate of ~20kph
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With so much carnage of the tyre...... & yet not a single mark on the hull, <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" /> the trailer escaped with only a minor scratch
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Read em and weep ...... <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />

https://www.facebook.com/WarrnamboolYachtClub/posts/598573470223759

Warrnambool regatta:

we had a great start on day 1 with a solid win in race 1 and were looking to back it up in race 2 when poo's did smack us down....
busted mast and torn main <img src="<>/cry.gif" alt="cry" title="cry" height="15" width="15" />

what really pi$$ed me off was I'd stuck Jurassic Karp's mast, main sail & jib onto Twice Shy just for the regatta
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so now I have to find a new mast and main for Karp....

mutter mutter mutter

Saturday nights social activities were cut sort so we could re-assemble the old gear back onto Twice Shy to compete on Sunday.

Luckily no major damage was done when the mast snapped to anything else except the mast and main.....

Sunday saw us back up n racing in what I can only say were great conditions for the old tart.... had a ball and came home with trophies.....

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not bad for an eBay hack ....
even better for a beginner crew and an old fart

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Posted : February 23, 2014 5:05 am
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the not so good bit......

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Posted : February 23, 2014 5:12 am
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The last time I broke a mast like that it was due to insufficient diamond tension. Did something break first (like a diamond wire) or did the mast just let go?


 
Posted : February 23, 2014 4:32 pm
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Unusal spot,


 
Posted : February 23, 2014 6:59 pm
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I thought that was the normal spot, even broke my f18 mast there!


 
Posted : February 23, 2014 8:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Peter_Lyons
The last time I broke a mast like that it was due to insufficient diamond tension. Did something break first (like a diamond wire) or did the mast just let go?

Diamond tension on that mast is (or should I say

was

) adjustable, we were running it around the 3/4 mark on the day .....

Nothing else broke with the rig ...... & I'll be using all the setup off this mast on the replacement mast, nothing is damaged except the alloy section itself

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Posted : February 23, 2014 9:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Matt_Stone
Unusal spot,

Several other sailors (including ex mozzie sailors) said the same thing

Bit of a mystery up until an old sailor and frequent bay user said one thing that ties it all together ......


 
Posted : February 23, 2014 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by Dazz
I thought that was the normal spot, even broke my f18 mast there!

Mozzies apparently break in 3 common spots.....

Area around the goose-neck
Dimond spreader bar
&
At the hounds

Uncommon to break else where apparently.....

I'm no expert as I've only ever broken one other mast and that was a cedar mast on my impara cadet back in 1973 !!!!! <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />

A bit more detail :

As we went over another gust hit us a 2nd time and that pushed the mast to ~45degrees down into the water..... We were on our way to a full capsize ... But there was a few moments of hesitation were it seemed to just hang there

then there was a shudder through the boat and she dropped down to fully upside down instantly...

Bugger, it was past the stage I could use my home-made righting setup so I went to the righting rope thats lashed up on the front of the tramp....
It was then I saw the base of the mast about a foot infront of the front beam and about two feet under the water.....
Crew calls out.... Dad, why is the mast up there ?.....
Turn around to see the top of the mast about 4feet above the water bobbing about happily at the back of the boat

Ummmmm errrrrr ...... thats not good !!!! <img src="<>/shocked.gif" alt="shocked" title="shocked" height="15" width="15" />

After we were draged back to shore and the rig was cleared away and the boat righted was when we were told why it had failed in that spot.....

Unknowingly we'd capsized on a sandbar and it was probably the wind gust and sea swell that pile-drove the mast until it failed

It did hang at that angle for quite some time befote flopping fully now we think about it .... <img src="<>/whistle.gif" alt="whistle" title="whistle" height="15" width="15" />

Makes sense but I'll never realy know....

so .................

Any spare masts around ????

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edited to fix spelling ... original post done from smart phone..... logical hey
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Posted : February 23, 2014 9:28 pm
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The beach rollers I got with Jurassic Karp have seen better days, one or two small splits soon multiplied into several small splits as soon as I started using the rollers under Twice Shy

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these small splits only got worse with use.... up until the side wall of the roller stated to fail they were semi tolerable so now I have to get a fix for these....

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