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Many in the Washington power elite are united in their dismay about Trump’s White House

The opposition to Trump is spilling across partisan and ideological boundaries as the realization grows that the awesome power of the U.S. government, its mass surveillance and law enforcement agencies and its nuclear arsenal, is now controlled by a band of amateur renegades who are out to dismantle the American state.

The dismay in Washington carries a hint of alarm. The traditional mandarins are not just offended by Trump’s cavalier treatment of the CIA and Pentagon in his first week in office or the callous, pointless and chaotically implemented immigration order. They are disturbed by his systematic contempt for the standard procedures of governance followed by every Democratic and Republican administration since the passage of the National Security Act of 1947.


 
Posted : February 3, 2017 11:21 am
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President Trump is finally following through on his promise to Make America Safe Again. He has begun our long-overdue attack on Australia.


 
Posted : February 3, 2017 11:47 am
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Well the Obama record is complete
we are at the mythical full employment level with no inflation (2% target). Benchmarks of the post war era!....We are growing by 200K jobs a month or about 2%. (Report today said... wow... those minimum wage laws have had an effect and real incomes have ticked up.... who would have thought) .... So.. We fixed the Bush/republican era fubar.

Here's the problem... growth requires either more people (demand)... so you can breed like rabbits... or have immigration add population. OOOPs .. we are not doing the nasty productively enough... AND for some

reasons??

we plan to cut immigration. 2% growth could be all that is available.

Or you can grow by improving productivity (inovation) .... Problem is... productivity means more output per worker... If the demand is constant.... then that is fewer workers... Fear the future... the robots are coming...

Or you can grow by making the universe bigger... ie globalization and trade .... Oops... we need to kill off those trade agreements..
I am just making sure we acknowledge where we are last quarter of 2016.

So... high water mark... or base to build from using the republican/trump template.... What is the winning move?

Trump just now promised to turn it around.... umm... well that would be par for republican economic performance of the past... sadly... turn it around... would point the economy down hill.


 
Posted : February 3, 2017 12:07 pm
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Where's The Beef Going?

From cable TV to cattlemen’s websites, flood of Trump news swamps the media

“Sparking a trade war with Canada, Mexico, and Asia will only lead to higher prices for American-produced beef in those markets and put our American producers at a much steeper competitive disadvantage,” Brunner said in a news release. “The fact remains that 96 percent of the world’s consumers live outside the United States, and expanding access to those consumers is the single best thing we can do to help American cattle-producing families be more successful.”


 
Posted : February 3, 2017 12:53 pm
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Ornstein and Mann recommend the US take on the Aussie system

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To counter this set of problems, we propose adoption of the Australian system of mandatory attendance at the polls, where voters who do not show up (they do not have to vote for specific candidates, but can cast unmarked ballots) and do not have a written excuse are subject to modest fines, the equivalent of a parking ticket. This system moved Australian turnout from around 55 percent, similar to the United States, to over 90 percent.10 Most important, it changed Australian campaign discourse. Politicians of all stripes have told us that when they know that their own base will turn out en masse, and will be balanced by the other party’s base, they shift their efforts to persuading voters in the middle. That means talking less about wedge issues, like abortion or guns, and more about larger issues like education and jobs; and it means using less of the fiery or divisive rhetoric that excites base voters but turns off those in the middle.

How valid is this point?


 
Posted : February 3, 2017 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
Ornstein and Mann recommend the US take on the Aussie system

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To counter this set of problems, we propose adoption of the Australian system of mandatory attendance at the polls, where voters who do not show up (they do not have to vote for specific candidates, but can cast unmarked ballots) and do not have a written excuse are subject to modest fines, the equivalent of a parking ticket. This system moved Australian turnout from around 55 percent, similar to the United States, to over 90 percent.10 Most important, it changed Australian campaign discourse. Politicians of all stripes have told us that when they know that their own base will turn out en masse, and will be balanced by the other party’s base, they shift their efforts to persuading voters in the middle. That means talking less about wedge issues, like abortion or guns, and more about larger issues like education and jobs; and it means using less of the fiery or divisive rhetoric that excites base voters but turns off those in the middle.

How valid is this point?

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Posted : February 3, 2017 7:32 pm
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Seen from down here, it seems to work very well. But surely there'd zero chance of getting anything compulsory going in the USA?


 
Posted : February 4, 2017 5:46 am
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
What is the winning move?

Dodge the system as long as you can, then get the phuck outta here.


 
Posted : February 4, 2017 9:20 am
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TRUMP UNHINGED: PREZ ATTACKS JUDGE

Trump Inches The U.S. Closer To Constitutional Crisis

Federal Agencies Stop Enforcing Key Parts Of Trump’s Travel Ban After Court Order

Inside the White House-Cabinet battle over Trump’s immigration order

This is all great stuff. We're barely into February and the popular vote loser has already run off of the tracks.

Where's Schwantz and Todd to mansplain all of this to us?


 
Posted : February 4, 2017 9:38 pm
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How protesters plan to get under Trump’s skin wherever he goes

About 200 of the 1,200 marchers made it across the bridge to the back gates of Mar-a-Lago. Across the street, a few dozen pro-Trump people waved American flags, but the spectacle was the protesters, beating drums, singing and chanting. This is the reality of Trump’s honeymoon-free presidency.

Trump — the most unpopular new president in modern times — canceled a trip to the Harley-Davidson factory in Milwaukee, where local groups had planned to protest his appearance; the White House said the protests were not the reason for the cancellation.

... a plan for a mass mooning of his hotel in Chicago.


 
Posted : February 4, 2017 9:54 pm
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Posted : February 5, 2017 11:20 am
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A thank you letter to Schwantz, Todd, Sparky, Clumlee, Ninny and K-Lube. Please excuse me if I left your name off of the list.

This note is a heartfelt “thank you” from the Left. You showed us that people who really hate a President and his administration can make a national difference in how well that President and administration can do their jobs through simple grassroots organizing (at least, that's what you claim you had - the Koch brothers' funding of your movement notwithstanding). You demonstrated all kinds of techniques for how to harass your congress people and senators into changing their votes and stopping President Obama's attempts to make everyone's lives better. Over the six to eight years you've been operating, you've demonstrated these techniques over and over, showing us what they look like when they're organized, finely honed, and repeated.

You may think that I'm being sarcastic, but I'm actually being serious when I say

thank you.

You were a very small group of people and you made huge waves in our political system. You developed a wonderful model for targeted, organized, effective grassroots activism.

Why am I thanking you? Well, after the election on November 8th, 2016, a lot of people noticed just how well your tactics and strategies had worked to stop the Obama administration from getting things done. And since you already field-tested them for us, we just have to copy your successful strategies without worrying that we're going to screw it up.

For me, the best part is that now you'll get to watch as a far greater number of people than you were ever able to recruit to your sorry-butt causes use those same strategies and tactics to shut down the morons you've put into office and send them packing. Why, just today, a group of Californians sent their Republican Congressman running and hiding when they showed up at his town hall meeting with questions he couldn’t answer. And he wasn’t even the first one to run and hide from his constituents since the election!

Once again, I really have to thank you for all your efforts on behalf of this great nation, especially the field-testing of all those tactics. You’re true patriots, showing us how to make America great again (although our signs will be correctly spelled — thanks for showing us how NOT to write a protest sign!).

Heckuva job, Tea-bees!


 
Posted : February 5, 2017 11:58 am
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Hang on. I'm gonna try something I saw in a Road Runner cartoon.

Revisiting a red-blue divide: States with the worst highway death rates favored Trump

November’s presidential contest was bizarre in many ways, but there is one peculiarity that pundits haven’t pounced on: The states with the worst rates of traffic deaths in the country went solidly for Donald Trump, while Hillary Clinton swept states with the lowest fatality rates.

That odd association between traffic deaths and how states voted echoes what happened just over four years ago, when this red-blue divide first came to light. As FairWarning reported in 2012, low fatality states voted blue to re-elect President Barack Obama, while states with higher death rates went red for GOP challenger Mitt Romney.

This might explain why Sparky, Ninny and Chumlee have been so quiet.


 
Posted : February 5, 2017 2:00 pm
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You got conned...

You voted for Trump because Clinton was going to be in Wall Street's pocket. Trump wants to repeal Dodd-Frank and eliminate the Fiduciary Rule, letting Wall Street return to its pre-2008 ways.

You voted for Trump because of Clinton's emails. The Trump administration is running its own private email server.

You voted for Trump because you thought the Clinton Foundation was

pay for play.

Trump has refused to wall off his businesses from his administration, and personally profits from payments from foreign governments.

You voted for Trump because of Clinton's role in Benghazi. Trump ordered the Yemen raid without adequate intel, and tweeted about

FAKE NEWS

while Americans died as a result of his carelessness.

You voted for Trump because Clinton didn't care about

the little guy.

Trump's cabinet is full of billionaires, and he took away your health insurance so he could give them a multi-million-dollar tax break.

You voted for Trump because he was going to build a wall and Mexico was going to pay for it. American consumers will pay for the wall via import tariffs.

You voted for Trump because Clinton was going to get us into a war. Trump has provoked our enemies, alienated our allies, and given ISIS a decade's worth of recruiting material.

You voted for Trump because Clinton didn't have the stamina to do the job. Trump hung up on the Australian Prime Minister during a 5pm phone call because

it was at the end of a long day and he was tired and fatigue was setting in.

You voted for Trump because foreign leaders wouldn't

respect

Clinton. Foreign leaders, both friendly and hostile, are openly mocking Trump.

You voted for Trump because Clinton lies and

he tells it like it is.

Trump and his administration lie with a regularity and brazenness that can only be described as shocking.

Let's be honest about what really happened.

The reality is that you voted for Trump because you got conned. Trump is a grifter and the American people were the mark. Now that you know the score, quit insisting the con-man is on your side.


 
Posted : February 5, 2017 11:08 pm
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Alternative Facts

Popular vote loser states media chooses not to report on terrorist attacks

Facts

It has been a busy day for presidential statements divorced from reality.

---CBS News anchor Scott Pelley

Can you help us here Schwantz? You're divorced from reality and should have some insight.


 
Posted : February 7, 2017 10:02 am
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“It could be more media bias. I say they need to present both sides of the story: The things that did happen and the things that didn’t happen. Then let the victims of the Bowling Green massacre decide if they were killed.”
---Stephen Colbert

“The important thing is that three million people died in the Bowling Green massacre, and they are all still registered to vote.”
---Seth Meyers


 
Posted : February 7, 2017 10:20 am
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
What is the winning move?

Dodge the system as long as you can, then get the phuck outta here.

And go where Karl? The rest of the world is either too brown, too liberal or both for you! Try to enjoy the next two years... tick tock!


 
Posted : February 7, 2017 2:46 pm
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Woman still supports popular vote loser even after her family is tossed out of the country.

I am a supporter of the constitution of the United States, and the freedom that we have here,

she says.

I don't know what

going to do next or if I support what he's gonna do. I can't tell at this point.

The Stoopid Is Strong In This One

The stoopid is also strong in this one.

... my uncle, who is an evangelical conservative who always votes Republican. He just told me that he's not worried that the GOP will take away his Social Security because if they try to, and I quote,

The Democrats will scream.

This is the quintessential conservative red state voter: vote against your own interests and hope like hell that the Democrats will bail you out.

Is his name Todd?


 
Posted : February 7, 2017 6:21 pm
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Originally Posted by David Ingram

And go where Karl? The rest of the world is either too brown, too liberal or both for you! Try to enjoy the next two years... tick tock!

Iceland or Hungary. Iceland is probably warmer than where Karl is right now anyway


 
Posted : February 8, 2017 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
And go where Karl? The rest of the world is either too brown, too liberal or both for you! Try to enjoy the next two years... tick tock!

Too brown? You're a special kind of stupid sometimes. A good chunk of the world isn't nearly as far left as the U.S. has fallen, so that isn't a problem either.

Given the opportunity, I would likely move somewhere with as little government intrusion as possible. Preferably warm(ish). Costa Rica maybe? There's a lot of eastern bloc countries where the government is barely there and the dollar goes a long ways, and they aren't stupid cold. At one point Estonia had a 10:1 exchange rate I doubt know where it's at now. Not an option now though, I'm stuck here.


 
Posted : February 8, 2017 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Originally Posted by David Ingram
And go where Karl? The rest of the world is either too brown, too liberal or both for you! Try to enjoy the next two years... tick tock!

Too brown? You're a special kind of stupid sometimes. A good chunk of the world isn't nearly as far left as the U.S. has fallen, so that isn't a problem either.

Given the opportunity, I would likely move somewhere with as little government intrusion as possible. Preferably warm(ish). Costa Rica maybe? There's a lot of eastern bloc countries where the government is barely there and the dollar goes a long ways, and they aren't stupid cold. At one point Estonia had a 10:1 exchange rate I doubt know where it's at now. Not an option now though, I'm stuck here.

Estonia is the place for you Carl. That's where Linkovich Chomovsky is from.


 
Posted : February 8, 2017 5:20 pm
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Alternative Facts Universe

Comedians everywhere are returning to school to take creative writing courses as they all realize they can never come up with material this good for their acts.

I understand now. The Trump administration is right about everything.

It is not their fault that their facts appear to be quite different from what is happening in the universe where most people live. They did not ask to come here. Something went wrong with the timeline, is all. Somebody stepped on a butterfly, and here we are.

When we look at their recently provided list of times when the media failed to cover Horrible Acts Of Terrorism, what we see is a long series of misspellings in which, often, zero people died.

The Bowling Green Massacre, something Kellyanne Conway mentioned in multiple interviews, is a real thing that happened. The carnage was unbelievable — not in the sense that it is here, where we don’t believe that there was any carnage. In the other sense.

The “inner cities” are unbelievable. In that universe, any time people in the nightmarish hellscape of the inner city leave their homes, they are instantly shot. Every time. You cannot go to the store without being shot. People sit huddled in their homes waiting to draw straws as to who will leave the house first, as whoever does so is inevitably killed. It’s awful. If we could only see what is happening in that universe, we would agree with sending in the feds.

In that universe, you need guns in your schools to protect from bear attacks, which are CONSTANT.

Maybe Schwantz and Todd are taking classes too.


 
Posted : February 8, 2017 5:33 pm
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Here's a story Todd will really enjoy.


Ted Cruz: ‘The Democrats are the party of the Ku Klux Klan’

In 2013, Virginia state Sen. Stephen Martin said that the Democratic Party created the hate group. Martin later released a statement saying he “regretted the carelessness and inaccuracy of his comments,” according to PolitiFact.


 
Posted : February 8, 2017 6:02 pm
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Maybe he doesn't want the job...

Supreme Court Nominee Calls Trump’s Attacks on Judiciary ‘Demoralizing’


 
Posted : February 8, 2017 6:33 pm
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Georgia white supremacist under FBI investigation after police find evidence of ricin in his car

William Christopher Gibbs, a 27-year-old man from Fannin County, Georgia is under FBI investigation after driving himself to the hospital last week, claiming he came into contact with the deadly substance ricin.

Gibbs’ Facebook profile indicates the 27-year-old white man is a member of the Georgia Church Of Creativity C.A and is a self-identified “White Racial Loyalist.” A profile photo on his account writes as the caption, “100 years from now when someone finds one of these trees thay [sic] will know that there was once a White Race.”


 
Posted : February 9, 2017 11:19 am
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Mitch McConnell gets some kinda award.

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Nice flag Mitch.


 
Posted : February 9, 2017 9:11 pm
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The popular vote loser has been taking typing lessons from Todd.

In response to the Ninth Circuit decision regarding restricting refugees and travel by immigrants from a number of Muslim-majority countries...

SEE YOU IN COURT, THE SECURITY OF OUR NATION IS AT STAKE!

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Posted : February 9, 2017 9:25 pm
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Travel ban ruling: In court as on Twitter, Trump confronts evidence gap

The list of evidence-free claims from President Trump and his administration is long and growing. “Millions” of people voted illegally. Inauguration turnout was the “biggest ever.” All negative polls are “fake news.”

Trump’s defiance might work well as political theater, and there’s no denying that it made for an effective presidential campaign. But as a legal strategy, it’s already hitting roadblocks. The first came last week, when a federal judge froze his controversial executive order shutting U.S. borders to refugees and migrants from seven mostly Muslim countries. But the real blow came Thursday, when an appeals court upheld that freeze. In a unanimous opinion, a three-judge panel on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit found that the government had failed to show why the travel ban needed to be immediately reinstated. To arrive at that decision, the appeals court did something close to what fact-checkers, journalists, scholars and others do every day when Trump and his surrogates make extraordinary claims: It demanded extraordinary evidence — or at least some evidence — for the administration’s arguments.

And it got none, the judges said.


 
Posted : February 10, 2017 11:25 am
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A week's supply of baloney

We're writing about a president who makes quite a number of misstatements,

said Glenn Kessler, the Washington Post reporter whose regular fact checks award

Pinocchios

based on the magnitude and brazenness of false claims.

This has increased our workload and increased the level of interest in fact-checking.

The number of unique visitors to Kessler's web page in January was 50 percent higher than in October, its previous busiest month, and 15 times greater than in January 2013, he said.

The Associated Press routinely publishes AP Fact Checks on political discourse. Last week, the AP premiered an aggregation of disputed political statements under the headline,

A week's supply of baloney.

A separate fact check on Conway's false claim of a Bowling Green

massacre

on Thursday was the most-read story on the APNews.com website Friday. Similarly, on Monday, readers spent more time with a story examining President Donald Trump's claim about the media underplaying incidents of terrorism than they did with any other news item that day.


 
Posted : February 10, 2017 11:36 am
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