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Originally Posted by Scarecrow
What I'm finding (which is not a surprise) is that everyone wants an off the shelf product and ideally an established fleet.

No doubt about that. But then again, it just takes one person to build a class (if it is the right person). Most people are followers.


 
Posted : October 12, 2009 1:04 pm
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Interesting comments Rolf.

I think you'll find that I'm in complete agreement here !

Wouter


 
Posted : October 13, 2009 6:48 am
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Where is the problem? There is a class with good rules, I have two boats complying, and sailing so just get yoursef here to follow


 
Posted : October 13, 2009 8:31 am
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Hi all just to let you all know we will be launching 3 vudu's on the 28th feb to expand the interest will post photos then. long time coming and all but thats life
cheers bill


 
Posted : February 4, 2010 11:23 pm
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Great news, there are things happening in Finland also; http://www.aijaa.com/v.php?i=5632309.jpg
It's not me this time, and we will maybe run the first competitions next summer


 
Posted : February 5, 2010 2:50 am
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Thanks for the good knews! Glad to know that things are moving. Slow progress is ok, provided there is progress.


 
Posted : February 5, 2010 1:38 pm
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The local sea scouts/cubs have just (last friday) placed an order for a fleet of the plastic version of the DS12 to be delivered ASAP. Freeboard will be increased to handle instructor + student but bottom will remain optimised for sailing one up. The other change is boats will have no boom (although the scouts don't know this yet).


 
Posted : February 7, 2010 7:01 pm
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A fleet

comprises how many? (estimated)
By plastic version, do you mean rotomolded?


 
Posted : February 8, 2010 6:46 am
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yes rotomoulded. Still discussing numbers. It will depend a little on how many we can fit on their trailer broken down.


 
Posted : February 8, 2010 4:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Scarecrow
yes rotomoulded. Still discussing numbers. It will depend a little on how many we can fit on their trailer broken down.

Interesting that viability for potential rotomolded (larger scale) production in this case is associated to larger volume hulls, ease of transportation and simplified rigging - not outright speed.

The last 1% speed is irrelevant provided that it sells and helps keep the numbers growing.

Congratulations!


 
Posted : February 8, 2010 7:40 pm
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True, although as I mentioned before they don't know about the simplified rigging. That's me trying to cut costs.


 
Posted : February 8, 2010 11:36 pm
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Good news.


 
Posted : February 11, 2010 8:37 pm
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well we have launched vudu 001 hc and what an awesome cat it is very quick responsive the kids loved it and so did the big kids tacked easily had an estimated 15-16 knot blast bow up the whole time through waves and all awesome and so much more to come will get more pics to post
cheers bill


 
Posted : February 28, 2010 11:57 pm
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That looks awesome, finally an alternative. Now the Tinaroo kids don't have to go from a bic to a laser!!! Love your work mate!!


 
Posted : March 1, 2010 6:51 am
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Looks good! Great news!


 
Posted : March 1, 2010 3:31 pm
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Here are a few more first day pics
cheers
R


 
Posted : March 3, 2010 4:12 am
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3 more


 
Posted : March 3, 2010 4:13 am
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Posted : March 3, 2010 4:14 am
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Thanks RG, how long did it take to rig each disassembled boat?


 
Posted : March 3, 2010 7:53 am
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About 30 min, 10 min if the hulls are assembled
cheers
R


 
Posted : March 3, 2010 6:03 pm
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Fantastic looking boats Mr Geek! the kids who get to sail them are very lucky indeed!


 
Posted : March 3, 2010 10:52 pm
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Long have we waited but not in wain, they looks great.
Weight of the cat, is the 50kg min weight more or less all right?


 
Posted : March 5, 2010 11:13 am
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We haven't weighed them yet, but Billy thinks they are slightly under weight by a few kilo's


 
Posted : March 5, 2010 2:38 pm
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From the LR2 pictures it looks like the boat should sail in its longest waterline, not with the bow up atitude seen in the photos.
It might have happened due to the kid's lack of experience or because the tiller extension was too short, but perhaps the rear beam could be displaced forward to force them to seat in the right place? Or maybe that will be a problem downwind?


 
Posted : March 5, 2010 3:40 pm
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Once the kids sit in the right position, Im sure the bow will sit in a bit further, probably doesn't help that Billy's son is 12 kg below what it was designed for either. If I have to change anything it will be to add a bit of volume aft but Im loath to do that as I wanted the boat to be largely pitchpole proof so we don't scare the kids while they are still learning.
We will learn more this weekend when they are out again and hopefully we will see a bit more breeze so that they can push the boats a bit harder.


 
Posted : March 6, 2010 4:47 am
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Originally Posted by RetiredGeek
Once the kids sit in the right position, Im sure the bow will sit in a bit further, probably doesn't help that Billy's son is 12 kg below what it was designed for either. If I have to change anything it will be to add a bit of volume aft but Im loath to do that as I wanted the boat to be largely pitchpole proof so we don't scare the kids while they are still learning.
We will learn more this weekend when they are out again and hopefully we will see a bit more breeze so that they can push the boats a bit harder.

Great news! It will certainly float on its design waterline with the right weight, more breeze and correct seating.

Luiz


 
Posted : March 7, 2010 12:24 pm
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I don't think you have to change anything. It's absolutly the same thing on both the Tabby and the DS 12, where you put the weight is of great importance and it takes a good part of skill to make the cat go fast. So may the best sailor, not the best boat win the race.


 
Posted : March 8, 2010 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Gato
I don't think you have to change anything. It's absolutely the same thing on both the Tabby and the DS 12, where you put the weight is of great importance and it takes a good part of skill to make the cat go fast. So may the best sailor, not the best boat win the race.

Have since found out that Bill's son is only 36kg, so its no wonder its riding high. On the plus side even though there was little wind this past weekend, we found out that a 36kg kid can right the boat by themselves which is always good 🙂
Hopefully the forecast 15-20 knots for this coming weekend will arrive and we can have some fun pushing the boats a bit 🙂


 
Posted : March 9, 2010 5:41 pm
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Good luck, the F12 is not a problem even for a kid in +15 knots. Some other cats can get difficult even for adults in +15 knots...


 
Posted : March 10, 2010 2:21 pm
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here's a few more pics


 
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