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 John
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Hello:
I'm new to this forum and soon to the F16 and Blade community. I've just sent in a deposit on a boat to Vector Works.
I'll be getting a trailer locally, Orange County, CA, so need to know what I should be looking for. Do any of you have a good photo of a well thought out trailer for a Blade?
What is the distance between the centerlines on the hulls?
Where is best place to support the hulls?
I home built my first fiberglass cat in 1965 and have owned a B-Lion, Tornado and presently a Shark. I'm looking forward to a boat I can actually beach launch by myself!
John, Shark US 421, soon to be Blade #?


 
Posted : May 28, 2006 5:29 pm
(@Anonymous 39155)
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I'd talk to Matt about this. His trailers have double rollers on the back and cradles in the front. See if he will supply you with those.

I've only trailered a few hundred miles with this set up, but no complaints so far.

I'll get you some pictures in the next few days.

Robi: What do you have on hand?


 
Posted : May 28, 2006 7:04 pm
 robi
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I dont have any photos sorry guys.

My trailer was a hobie 16 trailer. I removed all rollers and I have two rear home made cradles, and the two front cradles are Vector Works Special Edition blade cradles. Make sure you ask for the special edition cradles. Tell Matt, I sent you. lol <img src=

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Posted : May 28, 2006 10:09 pm
C2 Mike
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Quote
I dont have any photos sorry guys.

My trailer was a hobie 16 trailer. I removed all rollers and I have two rear home made cradles, and the two front cradles are Vector Works Special Edition blade cradles. Make sure you ask for the special edition cradles. Tell Matt, I sent you. lol <img src=

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Hi Guys,

I recommend what is quoted above. On my trailer I have the normal roller on the back and then a removable cradle that slips over it to support the hull once the boat is on the trailer. Rollers alone can gradualy wear the hull at the point that they touch over time.

Tiger Mike


 
Posted : May 28, 2006 10:31 pm
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I have cradles in the front as well and rollers at the back. I too have removable cradles that fit on top of the rollers at the back. I fit these before I start driving. So my boat rests on 4 cradles. Many aussies prefer to not have the hulls be touched by the trailer and suspend the boat on its beams. I finally decided to go with the cradle option and my hulls are surviving very well indeed. I have a timber hulled F16. Spread the load out well and you'll be fine.

The rollers make it very easy for a singlehanded sailor to load and unload the boat (singlehandedly)

Wouter


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 3:58 am
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Tiger Mike,
I would do the same if I supported my boat on its hulls when on the trailer. There is not much weight on the rear when on the trailer still I wouldn' let them sit on rollers while trailering.
At the very least I'd slip some pads between the hulls and rollers.

Regards,
Phill


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 4:01 am
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Welcome to the F16 class John, please put your location pin on our world map at :

http://www.frappr.com/formula16classgroup

Best of enjoyment with your new boat !

Wouter


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 4:01 am
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Here ya' go! Blame Robi for the bad pix. He insulted my camera as an antique and it hasn't worked right since! <img src=

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Trailer Dimensions:

overall length- 240

cross bar width- 96

rear bar set forward- 15

front bar set forward of rear bar-68 1/2


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 9:34 am
(@Anonymous 39155)
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side view


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 9:36 am
(@Anonymous 39155)
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side


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 9:38 am
(@Anonymous 39155)
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cradle


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 9:39 am
(@Anonymous 39155)
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cradle again


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 9:40 am
(@Anonymous 39155)
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rollers


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 9:41 am
(@Anonymous 39155)
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roller again


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 9:42 am
(@Anonymous 39155)
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rear


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 9:45 am
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Very nice Pete, but what stops your boat from moving sideways off the rear rollers? (apart from the tiedown)


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 10:48 am
(@Anonymous 39155)
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Nothing.


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 11:59 am
pdwarren
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Here's a rubbish photo of my trailer. I use 4 cradles, no rollers as I'm not a big fan of putting rounded hulls onto a flat roller, and anyway, it's pretty easy to get the boat onto cradles single-handed.

I don't normally put it on the trailer backwards. It's something I tried once, but it's easier to get on and off the other way round.

Cradles are from Vectorworks. The only thing to watch out for is to make sure that you have enough clearance below the dolphin striker if you're going to put a box on the trailer. As you can see, I've got some extra 50mm x 50mm on the arms to lift it up a bit, and to give a wider base to bolt the cradles to.

The arms are adjustable and can be removed which makes it less hassle to tow without the boat or leave in a crowded car park. Also, it adds a little more greyness to the legally grey area of towing 2.5m wide loads in the UK (as in,

the trailer's only 2m wide, officer, it's just that the load is overhanging

<img src=

alt=

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Paul


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 12:05 pm
Flyer_USA_185
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Jim Boyer and Greg Goodall strongly recommend trailering the Taipans (and their Flyers and Auscats) supported by the beams not the hulls. To that end I made up a front beam support for my Taipan that bolts to a

standard

cat trailer and a rear mast support that also supports the boat by the rear beam (there is very little load on the rear beam, as you can imagine most of the weight centers very close to the

front

beam- which is actually very close to the middle of the boat). I'll try to attach a photo.

Kirt


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 8:37 pm
Flyer_USA_185
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Here's hopefully a photo of the rear support- note the cat wheels are used as the rear

cradles

when loading the boat (actually I place the wheels under the rear beam and tie off, lift the boat by one bow and wheel to the trailer- load the bows on the front cradles then walk to back of boat, lift boat and wheels and slide boat up until the front beam touches it's

cradles

and set the wheels down in their

cradles

, then go forward and lift boat slightly and pull forward so front beam supports boat. Then place rear mast step which also traps wheels, untie wheels and use a line to lace rear beam up to mast stand. Mast is lowered over the front into telescoping mast stand utilizing mainsheet blocks to assist in lowering.)

Kirt


 
Posted : May 29, 2006 8:48 pm
(@Anonymous 12680)
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I bought the same trailer that Tiki showed, except I put cradles fore and aft. Also moved the wheels forward about 12 inches to give it a little better balance.

My front beam sits about 12 inches behind the from cross bar, about the same for the rear. This position seems to fit the ride of the trailer and rear quarter panel of the two vehicle (big GMC Yukon XL gas guzzler) better.


 
Posted : May 30, 2006 10:09 am
sjonnie
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proudly presenting my trailer

Jaap Haasnoot


 
Posted : May 30, 2006 3:25 pm
 John
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Tried but it didn't seem to take.
User error?


 
Posted : May 30, 2006 9:47 pm
 John
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Thanks folks for all the great ideas and photos.
You have made it much easier for me to visualize the task and possible options.
I knew there was reason I like cat sailors best.
John D, right next door to Surf City, USA


 
Posted : May 30, 2006 9:59 pm
(@Anonymous 39155)
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Whoa! You just got started! <img src=

alt=

/> Do a search on this site for sailboxes. <img src=

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/>

Now you're talkin' options!!


 
Posted : May 31, 2006 2:21 am
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Huh that is weird.

I'll look into that.

Wouter


 
Posted : May 31, 2006 5:01 am
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Hi ,

The way Jaap is moving his boat is my upinion the best way to do, you are carrying the boat on the more stronger parts of the boat and not on the weaker hull parts. It is also easy to put the boat on the trailer. So this is also the way i do trailering my boat. I will make a picture from it and put this on the web.


 
Posted : June 2, 2006 7:03 am
(@Anonymous 14038)
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Folks,
It is also the way I trailer my boat.
I used to have photos of my nine year old sone putting the boat on the trailer on my web site. Not sure if they are still there.

Regards,
Phill


 
Posted : June 2, 2006 7:22 am
(@Anonymous 38725)
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I had the double rollers in the rear and cradles up front setup but I added a 1 inch thick foam pad (a cheap cut up swim toy from Walmart) between the rollers and hulls after loading, to cushion any bumps and spread the load.

I once saw a brand new Inter 20 on a single rear roller setup that had been trailered to a boat show. It had two round dents in the hulls where it was bouncing up and down on the single rollers. Ugly sight on a brand new boat!


 
Posted : June 2, 2006 11:03 am
 John
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Got it to work.
I guess I was using the Caps key for the letter in the code. When I entered it lower case, it worked.
Thanks


 
Posted : June 2, 2006 10:38 pm
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