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 robi
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Just make sure, that when you do capsize you do NOT land on your mainsail. <img src=

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Posted : June 5, 2006 7:30 pm
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Most of the carnage was on Friday afternoon. Sustained winds, directly on shore, around 15 with a vicious chop. Short, steep little bastards with very short interval. I finally gave up, didn't even get off the beach. <img src=

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Posted : June 5, 2006 7:42 pm
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I don't think you landed ON your mainsail, it looks like you went THROUGH it! At first, I thought you guys had been run over by a power boat! I've never seen a sail so totally destroyed. <img src=

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Posted : June 5, 2006 7:46 pm
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Blade 714? You scoundrel! That was my sail!
Oh well, I'm told that I will have to settle for the

new and improved

or is it the

latest and greatest

.


 
Posted : June 5, 2006 7:52 pm
 robi
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Well, I heard that these new sails are the latest and greatest.

Sorry Bruce! Matt still has your jib though! <img src=

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Posted : June 5, 2006 8:44 pm
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Hey Robi,

I don't know how things are organised by the US association, but you can only have 1 sailnumber assigned to yourself. So if you were Blade 701 then you still are Blade 701 and have to replace 714 with 701 !

This means that Bob still gets boat (and sailnumber) 714 !

Wouter


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 3:36 am
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Okay, we all expect a full race report of you JPOR guys !

How many races, the conditions, the individual winner, the dueling matches, the crashes, the final results, everything !

Wouter


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 3:40 am
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Hi Tom,

my favourite saying is, if you don't crash you don't know where the limit is <img src=

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Don't listen to all those other cat sailors that can't remember the last time they tipped over, they don't know what it's like to live on the BLADES edge.

Regards Gary. <img src=

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Posted : June 6, 2006 6:24 am
 robi
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Hey Robi,

I don't know how things are organised by the US association, but you can only have 1 sailnumber assigned to yourself. So if you were Blade 701 then you still are Blade 701 and have to replace 714 with 701 !

This means that Bob still gets boat (and sailnumber) 714 !

Wouter

I am adding PUR to my number. There is already a US-714, I believe it is Jaime.

Who do I need to get in touch with about this?


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 7:24 am
 robi
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My report goes as follows.

Got there friday afternoon around 1:30pm EST and started setting up. The wind was howling and there was a three foot sweell breaking on the shore.

I got all setup and decided to go out, at first I was going out uni. Thank goodness that did not happen. So I invited Terry out with me and he said sure. We made it out threw the surf only after probably 20 mins of trying. The boat did not suffer any damage in the process. We started powering up the boat on port tack. She was flying threw the waves. When we tacked and were on starboard, the boat was way overpowered. She was flying to high, and I was releasin too much mainsheet. Terry went to pull on some downhaul and that is when [censored] hit the fan. He slid foward causing a massive pitch pole. I was strapped in and I could not go anywhere else except fall onto my mainsail. That is when I fell THROUGH the sail and she exploded. After that, called it a day and returned to shore. We were both unharmed and in good spirits. I was mad, but oh well, there was nothing I could do at that point.

Saturday started out beautifully. We couldnt have asked for better weather. Winds were around 8kts in the morning and gradually built to 12kts. Me and my crew were double trapped and everything was under control. Seing how my crew NEVER ever set foot on a beach cat before, I made a point to myself, were I was going to be extra carefull and extremely patient. I did not expect anything from her. So I took my time in explaining everything and pointed each line out for her. I made sure I made it very easy for her to understand. Our markings were nice and slow and everything was performed with extreme caution. This in the long run paid off great. We did not capsize once, and held our own.

Sunday the weather was lighter. By today my crew had the hang of the boat, and I was telling her what line to pull by the name of the line and she performed flauless. We sailed a great race, with no major breakdowns or crashes. Minor errors on my behalf caused us to be somewhat slower than what I would have liked, but this is a learning process.

We had three or four races on saturday and two races on sunday. The courses were SABCACF on sunday the first race was shortened to SABCF.

Sunday when we all started making our way into the beach it started down pooring. It was raining so hard there was barely any visibility. Good thing about the rain it rinsed out everything really good.


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 7:36 am
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This means that Bob still gets boat (and sailnumber) 714 !

Would you kids stop bickering over 714, because that is my number! I have hull(s) 714 and sail 714.<img src=

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Jamie


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 7:39 am
 robi
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This means that Bob still gets boat (and sailnumber) 714 !

Would you kids stop bickering over 714, because that is my number! I have hull(s) 714 and sail 714.<img src=

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Jamie

TRUE! but seing how we are in the US, you just never know. That is why I am adding PUR to mine.

Plus Bruce - Bobcat is in Canada so he can still get 714. <img src=

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Wouter, can you point me to the rule regarding sail numbers please. I will do my own research after this post.
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Posted : June 6, 2006 7:41 am
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Plus Bruce - Bobcat is in Canada so he can still get 714.

Except, I suspect that the HIN will contain a different number than 714. So it would be a matter if he wanted his sail number to match his boat number

Jamie


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 7:50 am
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Ehh well it is an issue as the nation code + sailnumber is required to be unique in the world. So we can't have two

USA 714

Actually this is an issue that the US class associations needs to sort out. The first member to register himself as an official member with a given sailnumber will be the rightful owner !

Wouter


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 7:58 am
 robi
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Ehh well it is an issue as the nation code + sailnumber is required to be unique in the world. So we can't have two

USA 714

Wouter, dont worry about it. There is NO TWO 714s in the US. Jaime is the official US-714. I clearly stated I am going to add PUR to my mainsail. I will be PUR-714. Bruce will be CAN-714.

I am sure we can sort it out. Dont worry about it. <img src=

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Posted : June 6, 2006 8:03 am
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Was decided on this forum about 18 months ago. I'm to pressed for time to look for it.

Besides you have registered yourself with me personally as an official F16 class member with the sailnumber USA 701. You were awarded rights to that number and therefor you have to keep it. This listing was transfered to the new F16 governing council and lets not confuse these guys anymore then we have too.

The only was to get a new sailnumber is to sell your boat and agree that the new owner takes over your sailnumber after which you can ask for a new one when you have bought a new F16.

Wouter


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 8:03 am
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John Alani. the New Formula 16 class secretary since 1 may 2006

Wouter


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 8:05 am
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At the same time it was decided that we use the official ISAF nation codes. So if PUR is an officially recognised Nation code by ISAF then PUR 714 could be already IF john alani agrees to that.

Actually guys, we're an official class now so changing sailnumbers is more complicated then just writing a note.

Sorry about that.

Wouter


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 8:08 am
 robi
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This listing was transfered to the new F16 governing council and lets not confuse these guys anymore then we have too.

I will get in touch with them and propose what I have posted here about adding PUR to my new number. If they are against it, then I will have to RIP 714 off my mainsail. What will happen if my new mainsail gets damaged? Will they cover the repair? <img src=

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I would much rather add to the mainsail, than to take those numbers off.


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 8:09 am
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Robi,

as long as you are a bit careful, you should not be able to damage your sail by removing the sailnumber.
I have done this several times, and never had any trouble with ripped seams etc. I would be surprised if you did.


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 8:16 am
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Removing sailnumbers from a sail is not that hard.

There should not be any damage what so ever if you take a little care.

I beleive the glue stains can be removed with a little anti-freeze windshield fluid.

Wouter


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 8:18 am
 robi
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I have just sent an official request to John Jalani. I want to be changed from 701 to PUR-714.

Let's see how that goes. NOW back to the JPOR thread please.


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 8:18 am
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Robi, I have sent you a PM.

To those parties that have taken an interest in this matter, please leave it alone until Robi and the F16GC have reached a decision. Thanks.

EDIT: No official intervention/decision required in this matter as Robi has elected to number his new mainsail as 701. The status quo is maintained... <img src=

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Posted : June 6, 2006 9:52 am
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Robi, you were born in Puerto Rico right?

Would you say there is more of a sailing culture in FL than back here?


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 11:07 am
 robi
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Robi, you were born in Puerto Rico right?

Would you say there is more of a sailing culture in FL than back here?

I was not born in Puerto Rico, but raised. I lived there since I was three years old and moved out at 22. As far as beach cat sailing goes. Yes I think FL has a bigger community compared to Puerto Rico. As far as mono-slugs go, I would venture out and say Puerto Rico is bigger.

BUT take this as a grain of salt, because I have not been able to sail beach cats in Puerto Rico and I have NOT been able to sail mono-slugs in FL. I am constantly traveling back and forth, and I really have not seen much beach cat action going on in Puerto Rico.


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 11:10 am
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Yeah I know what you mean, i currently crew in a mono, and it seems hard for cats to have good beach access here.

Do you keep your cat at your house and trailer back and forth, or do you keep it at the beach?

Sorry for the many questions, but I am considering moving there eventually, and would like to know how the sailing scene works.

If /when that happens my #1 priority will be getting a Blade jejeje.


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 11:18 am
 robi
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I sent you a private message.


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 11:23 am
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Ok, just anwered it.


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 11:31 am
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Robi,

What about pics? It didn't (really) happen unless you have it on film!


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 1:04 pm
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Quick question on F16 uni:

When going to weather (and trapeezed) in moderate air, I felt like I wanted to be further forward than my tiller extension would allow. I could (maybe) have one foot forward of the side stay and felt like another 3-4 inches on the tiller would have allowed me to be a bit more forward and drive the leeward hull thru the water better.

Is this thinking correct? Keeping the leeward hull deeper in the water (almost to the point of

diving

).


 
Posted : June 6, 2006 1:14 pm
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