Ohh my GOD, take a look at what I found
Ohh my GOD, take a look at what I found
I got my hands on a Hobie cat models price list from 1st sept 2004 and onwards !
Of all models !
Lets take a look at our competition :
FX-one
Hobie FX-one (just mainsail a la A-cat) ; 11.982 Euro's
Hobie FX-one (fully fitted a la F16) ; 11.982 + 1495 (selftacker + jib) + 1909 (spi + snuffer) = 15386 Euro's
Hobie Max (Their ISAF youth entry 145 kg and smaller sails than F16)
Hobie Max Club (I assume sloop + spi + snuffer) ; 11.566 Euro's
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Hobie 16's (you can buy 6 ! different versions I will only name the 4 most used and ignore the easy and club versions)
Hobie 16 classic (completely bare ; you won't win a race with that) ; 9026 Euro's
Hobie 16 Le race ( What you want as the bare minimum ) : 9977 Euro's
Hobie 16 max race (What you want to be competitive in OD H16 racing ) : 12.578 Euro's
Hobie 16 max race ++ (I thought this was a One-design class !?) : 15.600 Euro !!!!
That max race ++ has all the upgrades and options like "reinforced hulls" ; "mesh trampoline" etc
Spi kit with snuffer for the H16 1867 Euro ! Without the snuffer 1144 Euro's; That spi snuffer is 723 Euro's !
To be fair I will give our competition the F16 prices. (F16 means means with all things like spi etc that you need for F16 racing)
Stealth F16 (singlehander - no jib setup) + carbon mast) 6800 * 1.455 = 9894 Euro's
Stealth F16 (fully fitted + carbon mast) 7800 pounds * 1.455 = 11.350 Euro
Stealth F16 (same as above with halve carbon hulls) 8225 * 1.455 = 11.967 Euro
Stealth F16 (same as above with full carbon hulls) 8800 * 1.455 = 12.804 Euro's
Taipan F16 (fully fitted, optimized, selftacker, carbon stocks, the works + delivery from Aus) = 15.500 Euro's
US Blade F16 (fully fitted, selftacker, carbon [censored], the works + delivery to EU) = 11.850 / 1.29 * 1.21 + 1750 = 12.865 Euro's
EU Blade F16 (Fully fitted, bla, bla, bla know what I mean) = projected between 12.500 Euro's and 13.000 Euro's
Rumour has it that the full carbon hulls EU Blade will be less then 14.000 Euro's
AHPC snuffer system = 250 Euro's ; AHPC complete spi kit incl shipping and customs = 1400 Euro's
Stealth snuffer system = 210 * 1.455 = 305 Euro's
And both snuffers weight halve of the Hobie ones as well.
Take a look at the Stealth prices again ! Who said Carbon was expensive ?
I used to say that a standard competitive Hobie 16 was not much more cheaper than a fully fitted F16, Now I can say that a standard competitive Hobie 16 is the same as a fully fitted F16 ! Such a Hobie 16 with spi is more expensive then the F16's except the Taipan F16 that has to be shipped all the way from Aus !
How about that Hobie Max youth boat ? Overweight, underpowered with pear shape alu mast and just as expensive as a fully blown Stealth F16 with carbon mast and 35 kg lighter. Not to mention the speed difference.
I think the race is on for Europe, guys. With the H16 out of the Youth class the window is opening.
Wouter

And here are the nacra prices. Note that the F17 is without a jib setup and some other upgrades as well. It appears to be a alu masted version as well. The quote I hear for the I-17R version was significantly higher than 12.500 Euro.
These prices come from http:/
That exchange rate is really helping US build boats.
Nacra 500 ; 5.07 m 10690.00 : TTC
Nacra 570 ; 5.67 m 11960.00 : TTC
Nacra F17 ; 5.25 m 12300.00 : TTC
Nacra 580 ; 5.79 m 13390.00 ; TTC
Nacra F18 ; 5.52 m 13995.00 ; TTC
Nacra F20 ; 6.10 m 17260.00 ; TTC
Nacra A2 ; 5.49 m 33000.00 ; TTC
How about that Nacra A2 A-cat ? 33.000 Euro's !
You can almost buy two I-20's for that !
What a joke it that A is run down by 13.995 Nacra F18's !
Wouter
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