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Restating the F16 mission (goals)

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Good job!


 
Posted : June 7, 2010 10:40 am
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The reason most class associations have virtually identical mission statements is because the association forms to support and promote class racing of xx boat. They are short and simple.

Compare Wouters and the F16 Web site blather to the F18's.

The object of the Association is to promote the interests of the IF18CA through the World
2.1 To co-ordinate and manage the affairs and rules of the IF18CA in co-operation with the International Sailing Federation (ISAF), the National Sailing Authorities, the National Associations, the builders, sail and equipment makers and National Associations.
2.2 To maintain the level rating character of the Formula 18 catamarans.
2.3 To promote and develop competition within IF18CA.
2.4 To comply with objectives and decisions of ISAF as they apply to IF18CA.
2.5 To encourage and foster the sporting and recreational aspects of sailing.

Perhaps if you substituted F16 for F18.... and let the definition of hard core... cut throat racing and nasty axxhole behavior or the priceless...

F16 as the Introduction Class to Catamaran Racing” training wheels anyone? out of the blather and mission statement... the class culture would form from the bottom up on the RACE COURSE... Who knows what that would look like... but it would certainly be authentic.

Following Wouter's vision of the class culture is as anachronistic as trying to create the

Hobie Way of life" enshrined in the Hobie Class mission from the day's of Hobie Alter.


 
Posted : June 7, 2010 11:58 pm
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Following Wouter's vision of the class culture is as anachronistic as trying to create the

Hobie Way of life

enshrined in the Hobie Class mission from the day's of Hobie Alter.

And now you are wondering why teeanger are not joining cat sailing? Promote... manage... affairs.. comply with objectives..., this sounds like boring old guys discussing in a club lounge. Well not only teenager aren't joining.
Go on a kiter or surfer's beach and you know who is anchronistic.
And ask yourself why Hobie was so successfull.

Cheers,

Klaus


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by Aido
Wouter

The mission of the F16 class should be to get as many boats on the water as possible.

God Damn it Wouter you cant even be bothered to get your own boat on the water for the NS regatta. Shame on you. Hans Klok is just as bad. Whats wrong with you guys?

The best thing you can do for the class is show up to some regattas.

Hey Aido,

Why am i just as bad , i do a lot of sailing but not at all these big regatta's. I can tell you why. I do not have the time and money to do a lot of these big regatta things, this would mean that i have to be on the way alomst every weekend and this will not work with a family with 2 small kids. I do guite some sailing at Hellevoetsluis against the same type of boats instead racing open fleets on rating. I do like sailing against the same type of boats because you can then see if you make progress yes or no. My new 16 is not yet ready, the customers have first priority. I hope to have the boat ready for Texel and when the weather is good i will probably go there. I did some sailing International and this is costing enough and i have to make choices. Yes, i am not ventilating to much on what i sail yes or no because i do not see any value in doing this.

Cheers,
Hans


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 2:55 am
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Good job Kris, indeed !

Well done and lets hear more of such activities !

Wouter


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 11:10 am
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Sorry Mark,

I respect you but the attitude that you are displaying in your last post is partly what is turning people away from cat sailing. It is exactly that that I describe as a hardcore mentality.

It is mean spirited, inflexible (my way or the highway !) and quite frankly wrong.

Maybe the F16 class is the only class that tries to be different. If so, then that still doesn't mean the other classes (with identical mission statements) are right. But that is neither here nor there.

What is important is that this is the way we are doing it and quite frankly we don't care what a F18 sailor, a Tornado sailor, a Nacra F20 and who not else thinks about it.

Wouter


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 11:18 am
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There is no F16 sailor.

Just as there is no F18, F20, Tornado, or Hobie 16 sailor.
I know lots of F18/Tornado/whatever sailors that only sail for fun at their club and maybe sail a few regattas a year, there are also those who go to every regatta.

You just cant label F16 sailors as not

hardcore

racers, just as you cant label they as funcruisers.
Everyone is different and might have his own goals etc.


 
Posted : June 8, 2010 12:43 pm
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