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Schurr Sails F16 Spinnaker Latest Design

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(@mike97)
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http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10151118172901047.487218.85049741046&type=1

Bert Rice's Viper sailed by Michael Rice and Luke Yates

Latest Spinnaker Design by Schurr Sails.


 
Posted : July 29, 2012 8:19 pm
(@Anonymous 38725)
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I like the look of that mainsail, is the spinnaker flatter than the Goodall?


 
Posted : July 29, 2012 10:20 pm
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The Spin has the same camber up high but a good bit more down low for more drive and control. We've been out 4 times this past week and it pulls like a freight train. Michael observed a bunch more leeward helm downwind which indicates may indicate more relative power up forward...
I'm finalizing a new main design which mirrors the A-cats a little more than this first draft.


 
Posted : July 30, 2012 7:03 am
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Looks great, it looks as though it might be pushing the mid-girth rule though? I doubt anyone would build one that wouldn't fit into the rule set though.. soooooo
SIGN ME UP. plot one and send it to me to put together <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />


 
Posted : August 7, 2012 6:50 pm
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Pat, I reduced the zones from 3 to 2 and already double-checked the mid-girth and overall size. I can print once I know what color you want <img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" />
Bert Jr


 
Posted : August 9, 2012 10:40 am
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9bDF39j3h0&feature=plcp Spin design in action


 
Posted : August 14, 2012 10:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Mike97

What speed advantages does this cut offer over the current kites on the market?


 
Posted : August 15, 2012 10:23 am
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interesting the driver's trapped out and the sheet hand isn't


 
Posted : August 16, 2012 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by David Ingram
Originally Posted by Mike97

What speed advantages does this cut offer over the current kites on the market?

Well Duhhh...it's BLACK! You KNOW that's got to be faster!


 
Posted : August 16, 2012 9:41 am
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I'm still waiting for Mythbusters to test that

once you go black..

thing.


 
Posted : August 16, 2012 9:43 am
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The crew was very green and the wind and waves were a little rough so I took the liberty of sticking myself out there.


 
Posted : August 16, 2012 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
I'm still waiting for Mythbusters to test that

once you go black..

thing.

Forget about waiting for Mythbusters, just ask JC!

;^)


 
Posted : August 16, 2012 8:23 pm
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People on this site have talked a lot about how the mainsail should be cut different depending on whether you are sailing 1-up or 2. I'm wondering... Should the Spin also be cut differently?


 
Posted : August 16, 2012 9:18 pm
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Originally Posted by daniel_t
People on this site have talked a lot about how the mainsail should be cut different depending on whether you are sailing 1-up or 2. I'm wondering... Should the Spin also be cut differently?

For one up the mainsail should be a flatter cut, as for the spin, not necessarily, however if your sailing in more windier conditions, then having a flatter spin may be something to consider.


 
Posted : August 17, 2012 7:09 am
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Dave,
We haven't gone up against Taylor but the spin seems really fast. The leading edge has a finer entry. You have to trim it a little past

taking the curl out

. The exhaust is pretty clean 1/2 way up the trailing edge. There's alot of camber down low for power while keeping control...
- Bert Jr


 
Posted : August 17, 2012 10:48 am
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Thank you Bert, that's the kind of feedback I was looking for. Do have some two boat testing planned?


 
Posted : August 17, 2012 11:56 am
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Nothing organized has been planned. We've been sailing a good bit. Minor changes are being incorporated for Kirk's Nacra Carbon 20- it's wider beam and more powerful platform. will post vids once made...I can iterate a design with you if you want- I enjoy the process.


 
Posted : August 20, 2012 10:16 am
 Karl
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How wide? 12'?


 
Posted : August 20, 2012 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
How wide? 12'?

10 1/2 ft.


 
Posted : August 20, 2012 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Junior
I can iterate a design with you if you want- I enjoy the process.

Please.


 
Posted : August 22, 2012 7:26 am
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What's your e-mail and phone? I'll work one up per the F-18 rules and we can chat.


 
Posted : August 22, 2012 11:14 am
 samc
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Any word on schurrs development for the F16 and F18? It would be great to add another sailmaker to the table!


 
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