Welcome Guest
Catamaran Sailing at TheBeachcats.com Logo
Notifications
Clear all

Don't do "The Pelican" with your snuffer!

13 Posts
6 Users
0 Reactions
8,214 Views
spfechner
(@spfechner)
Posts: 27
Lubber Registered
Topic starter
 
[#15241]

I have a Nacra F18 with a spinnaker and front snuffer. While sailing in about 15 knots on a broad reach and moderate ocean swells (3-4 ft), I decided to use the main and jib only, surfing the offshore ocean swells. It would have been ideal conditions for my spinnaker, but I just felt like surfing the waves without it.

After about 2 minutes, I accidently had my snuffer do an impression of a pelican scooping its beak into the water. The front of the snuffer somehow got underwater. This caused the snuffer pole to break in half.

Since I am new to spinnaker sailing, I was not aware that this could be a problem. In the future, I will be very aware of the potential for this to happen. You should be too.

The good news was that back at the dock a sharp-eyed friend noticed that the broken pole was the same as the upper section of a Laser mast, which he was throwing away. I primed it, painted it flat black, sawed it to fit and it works like the original!


 
Posted : April 12, 2005 4:41 pm
(@powergroove)
Posts: 1224
Master Chief Registered
 

Was it an end pole or midpole snuffer?
In the Tybee 500 last year we broke a spin pole in half while stuffing the bows hard, and it was a straight aluminum pole without a snuffer end! So get a midpole, and keep those bows up...

BTW Using the spin will keep the bows up, as the NACRA is hard to keep up on a tight jib reach in those conditions. If you are reaching, keep your hand on the jib sheet and be ready to blow it at a moments notice.

dave mosley
NACRA F18 Rigging Tips


 
Posted : April 13, 2005 6:43 pm
spfechner
(@spfechner)
Posts: 27
Lubber Registered
Topic starter
 

My boat has a front snuffer. Thanks for the suggestion about blowing the jib sheet.


 
Posted : April 14, 2005 12:02 am
Jake Kohl
(@jake)
Posts: 11744
Three Star Admiral Registered
 
Quote
Was it an end pole or midpole snuffer?
In the Tybee 500 last year we broke a spin pole in half while stuffing the bows hard, and it was a straight aluminum pole without a snuffer end! So get a midpole, and keep those bows up...

yeah well...you should also add that we DID have the spinnaker up at the time but we stuffed so hard into the back of a wave that we put the bottom of the spinnaker under water which lead to the broken pole and shredded spinnaker.


 
Posted : May 23, 2005 10:32 am
(@powergroove)
Posts: 1224
Master Chief Registered
 

good point!!!


 
Posted : May 24, 2005 5:12 pm
scooby_simon
(@simonJlongstaff)
Posts: 3496
Captain Registered
 
Quote
Quote
Was it an end pole or midpole snuffer?
In the Tybee 500 last year we broke a spin pole in half while stuffing the bows hard, and it was a straight aluminum pole without a snuffer end! So get a midpole, and keep those bows up...

yeah well...you should also add that we DID have the spinnaker up at the time but we stuffed so hard into the back of a wave that we put the bottom of the spinnaker under water which lead to the broken pole and shredded spinnaker.

I did something similar a while back on my Hurricane 59 - Twin wiring with the kite up in fairly big winds on the lake (we get short square waves which are a nightmare) and put the bows under, and the pole and the front of the kite, and the front beam and the pole survived (much to my surprise), it did make a hell of a twang when it came out mind - we took the kite down PDQ.


 
Posted : May 26, 2005 2:27 pm
Jake Kohl
(@jake)
Posts: 11744
Three Star Admiral Registered
 

we kept her flying after this...we were the last to be flying a spinnaker (never took it down for the sleigh ride).

[Linked Image]


 
Posted : May 26, 2005 10:19 pm
(@Anonymous 37882)
Posts: 612
 

Yeah, Jake, but that`s not a proper "Pelican", I can still see your snuffer chute !
See attached pic, courtesy of the Spitfire web-site. Now THEY know how to do the Pelican..


 
Posted : June 9, 2005 9:07 am
(@wmkhath)
Posts: 590
Chief Registered
 

Dive, Dive, Dive!


 
Posted : June 9, 2005 10:10 am
(@Anonymous 13024)
Posts: 4319
 

Dont know about the pelican, but they are definately deep sea fishing! Wonder if they saved it?


 
Posted : June 9, 2005 1:14 pm
scooby_simon
(@simonJlongstaff)
Posts: 3496
Captain Registered
 

Having sailed a Spitfire, I would say most likley they did !


 
Posted : June 9, 2005 3:56 pm
(@Anonymous 13024)
Posts: 4319
 

Well, that's amazing. I have heard about wave piercing, but that Spitfire looks like they have taken it a bit to far


 
Posted : June 10, 2005 8:30 am
scooby_simon
(@simonJlongstaff)
Posts: 3496
Captain Registered
 

Indeed, My opinion in all these is that if both crew stay put you can get most things back - I had my Hurricane deeper than that and it came back - we had water up to the first batten on the mainsail !


 
Posted : June 10, 2005 9:23 am
Secret Link