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Newboy1750
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Hi everyone,

I had my first experience of sailing a catamaran today, on a resevoir in sunny England. My friend who owns the Cat is looking to invite a mutual friend, here is the problem.

The Cat is a Mystere, the friend weighs 23 stones, is he too heavy to crew?

I wouldn't think so, but returning to the top, I'm a novice. Any ideas?


 
Posted : August 28, 2005 3:57 pm
Jake Kohl
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Mystere makes several different catamarans - what model is it?(4.3, Twister, 6.0, etc.)

23 stone (322 lbs) from one person is a bit much for performance on any two person catamaran although most can sail with the weight. (can someone make sure I converted that properly?).


 
Posted : August 28, 2005 6:09 pm
bullswan
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322 is correct. What about the forces on the trapwire?
Yikes!


 
Posted : August 28, 2005 6:28 pm
bullswan
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sunny England

What?


 
Posted : August 28, 2005 6:30 pm
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Sunny England is Brittish humor. Think Monty Python.


 
Posted : August 28, 2005 8:21 pm
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Could it perhaps be that town named "England" in the Bahamas????


 
Posted : August 28, 2005 9:52 pm
scooby_simon
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Sunny and 25 degress roday and slightly cooler yesterday - That'll be summer done then....


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 2:47 am
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The Cat is a Mystere, the friend weighs 23 stones, is he too heavy to crew?

Get out of the stone-age and get with the SI unit program (Kilograms etc)

Wouter

(The guy is 142 kg ?!!)


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 2:54 am
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wouter,

theres a guy in FL that sails his N20 solo. He makes min crew weight by himself.


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 7:24 am
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That would be "SMITTY"


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 7:37 am
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Yeah heard of that guy

Wouter


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 8:45 am
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I think he may have pulled out one in the win column at the last bouy regatta (light air). I don't know about you, but there are WAY to many lines to play with for one person on that boat! Maybe if you had an autopilot and spin cleats...


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 8:51 am
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Winner of this year's C-100 was a single-handed I-20.


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 10:49 am
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Jake,

I suspect that this Mystere is a 1970's 16ft that was a contemporary of the Condor, Hydra and early Dart 18's. In answer I would say that a boat of that age is unlikely to be happy with 145Kgs plus, say another, 70Kgs for the helm. I also doubt that the trap wire could be guaranteed to take that weight and anyway - where do you get a harness in XXL?


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 3:41 pm
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Are Dart 18's fast boats?

The Phepps cat sailing book using them. I've always been curious...


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 3:46 pm
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Darts are a little slower then Hobie 16's. However.. If it blows like stink... you want a Dart. They were designed for breeze. Great simple boats... still love my 87!

Mark


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 4:13 pm
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Slower than a Hobie 16? That's pretty slow! We have 14' cats that are faster than Hobie 16's, and almost every 16' cat with centre boards races faster than a H16.


 
Posted : August 29, 2005 8:13 pm
malgray
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That's crap Darryl and you know it! If you want to play that game, I have seen Hobie 16s go faster than A-Class. www.lcsc.org.au (allboats regatta results)
((I always bite if the bait is big enough!))


 
Posted : August 30, 2005 7:55 am
 Matt
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That's right the H16's the fastest boat in the world!


 
Posted : August 30, 2005 9:14 am
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I second the dart being a great boat.
Not going to take line honours in an open fleet but in a good blow, they are a blast. Besides, they are a great one-desing so speed is only relative to other darts!


 
Posted : August 30, 2005 10:22 am
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Are Dart 18's fast boats?

The Phepps cat sailing book using them. I've always been curious...

I have sailed a Dart for many years and love them. They do not have a kite as standard. On handicap they are about 17 minutes in a hundred slower than an F18. But if it's honking, the Dart's usually win on handicap at our club. They are fast enough to be a lot of fun and are so simple...


 
Posted : August 30, 2005 10:30 am
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An H 16 is faster than an A class?? Must have been the worlds slowest A class..
VYC yardstick of a Hobie 16 is 81 the A Class has a VYC yardstick of 71..


 
Posted : August 30, 2005 11:12 am
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