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(@Anonymous 39155)
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Have I missed something? I thought a broad reach was the fastest point of sail and the spinaker would let you bring some, but not all, of that speed downwind for max vmg.

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Posted : June 7, 2008 9:26 am
(@Anonymous 14272)
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it definitely is on taticat


 
Posted : June 7, 2008 8:12 pm
(@Anonymous 14840)
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it definitely is on taticat

Sorry Dudes, it's now SAILX.COM!!


 
Posted : June 7, 2008 10:54 pm
(@Anonymous 8992)
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I think its the most efficient point of sail with the potential to be fastest if there is enough wind.

Darryn
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Posted : June 7, 2008 11:50 pm
(@Anonymous 6548)
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More sail = more drag, but better VMG, particularly a spinnaker.

Max speed reached on a 2 sail reach....... So Pete, you are correct.


 
Posted : June 8, 2008 12:22 am
MaryAWells
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Have I missed something? I thought a broad reach was the fastest point of sail

Now I am totally confused. I have always been told that a BEAM reach is the fastest point of sail in terms of pure speed. Isn't that what they do for all the record speed runs? And they don't use spinnakers, of course. If a boat could go faster on a broad reach with a spinnaker, why wouldn't they be doing that to set records?

For sailing to a downwind destination, and tacking downwind, a spinnaker might get you to your destination faster, but it is not because the boat is going as fast as it can go.

Am I wrong?


 
Posted : June 8, 2008 8:48 am
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Posted : June 8, 2008 10:15 am
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Mary has it right,

Best straight line speed on a beam reach w/ maximum apparent wind added to true wind. My favorite thing to do on the H16.


 
Posted : June 8, 2008 10:47 am
Smiths_Cat
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Hi all,

I looked in my recorded gps track logs. The point of highest speed on my Javeline 16 is certainly broad reach with and without hooter. However on my Dart 18 I got about the same speed on both courses. On the classic Tornado, the fastest course seems to be a bit deeper than beam reach. But I have loged the Tornado only one time.

Does speed runs require sailing the same route in both directions?

Cheers,

Klaus


 
Posted : June 8, 2008 11:03 am
bvining
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Does speed runs require sailing the same route in both directions?

Nope,
Most of the purpose built boats trying to break the 50knot record are one trick ponies, they are set up to only go one way.

Bill


 
Posted : June 8, 2008 11:44 am
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Nope,
Most of the purpose built boats trying to break the 50knot record are one trick ponies, they are set up to only go one way.

And that is why Hydroptere is so bloody interesting; as that is not build as an one trick pony.

It doesn't require lab like conditions to make its speed runs.

Wouter


 
Posted : June 8, 2008 1:29 pm
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Hi
I agree Hydroptere is a beauty I hope they make it as it is a real boat. Not running on puddles, 50m in the lee of a sand spit or one way ditches going nowhere. If we are going to go faster it has to be practical. Group Amma also have a great boat. Watch some of the video of how the daggers lift the hulls. They have the 24h record 33.08 knt average over 24hrs thats flying.
ELL


 
Posted : June 8, 2008 1:40 pm
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=t_w3k5PuJOA

Hydroptere video @ 41.2 kts


 
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