Also - the Prosail 40s were not one-design in the sense you say. At one point there was trimaran in the mix.
He did not say
Prosail 40's
; he just said
Prosail,
so I think he was referring to the Hobie 21's, which were part of the Prosail series.
Obviously, the 40's were not one-design, because that division included both catamarans and trimarans. The Hobie 21's were one-design.
Also - the Prosail 40s were not one-design in the sense you say. At one point there was trimaran in the mix.
He did not say
Prosail 40's
; he just said
Prosail,
so I think he was referring to the Hobie 21's, which were part of the Prosail series.
Obviously, the 40's were not one-design, because that division included both catamarans and trimarans. The Hobie 21's were one-design.
Yeah, I assumed he meant the Prosail 40's because he had just mentioned the Volvo Extreme 40s. The Prosail 21s were certainly one design.
Also - the Prosail 40s were not one-design in the sense you say. At one point there was trimaran in the mix.
After checking, I see that ProSail started with the Hobie 21s as Mary says, then built a
fleet of Formula 40s albiet a semi One-Design
very similar to Smyth's M&M that won the F40s in Europe in '86.(Seahorse mag Nov/Dec '88)
After the first event in '88, the lovely Gougeon tri Adrenalin joined in. According to Seahorse mag March/April '89, the series went OD after that, using ProSail 40s designed by M&M (the first three were built in '88, another for Smyth '89, and some of his earlier F40s were changed to
convert them back to the ProSail 40 specifications
. The M&M website says that
the Morrelli F-40 became the Prosail one design choice in 1989 and 1990.
So it seems the series was (with one exception, Adrenalin, which was banned after 2 events, and perhaps the less successful Earthwatch?????) One Design.
Re Tornadoes; they certainly were designed to the B Class - the competition at Sheppey in '67 was for a One Design class within the limits of the B Class. All the serious competitors (Tornado 1 and II, Quest B, Manta B and Roton Pointer) were designed to the limits of the B Class.
I can't find all my sources (some are in the attic) but this info comes from the '68 book
Catamaran Racing
, written by Reg White (who built the first 2 Tornadoes and skippered the one that won the trials) and Bob Fisher (his crew). I don't think the Tornadoes had done much B Class racing; they had only been built that year, Fisher says the Manta dominated B Class racing, and Tornado II (the wing mast una rig version) was so new it missed the first day's racing.
Going out on a tangent here..
The tornados dominated the Sheppey trials, so I expect they would have done well in any B-class race as well.
I have seen so many references to Adrenalin, but never pictures and a description of the boat. Do you have any links to more info about it?
Sorry Rolf, Googling gives very little info and only one tiny pic (on the Guegeon Brothers page). Wonderful boat, though.
From my recollection of the articles I've seen on the trials, and the Fisher/White book, the Tornado would certainly have blitzed a B Class race as you say.
Wooden Boat
magazine did an extensive article on Adrenaline. You can probably order the article or back issue.
I kept that particular issue for years, but was not able to find it during a quick search through my stash this morning. I'll try again later.
Pete,
If you do manage to find it I would love a copy if you have a scanner. Attended a lecture by Mead Guegeon around 16yrs back where he gave us the run down on the boat. However memory aint perfect. It would be good to get a copy of the article for reference.
If Adrenaline and Earthwatch were the only two trimarans racing in Prosail, I have pictures of both of them. Rick took a lot of photos, on the water, when the series was in Miami. They're all great pictures, but the problem is that they are color slides.
If you can't find a picture elsewhere, let me know and I will try to find a place that can convert them into photographs. Maybe the company that prints my magazine can do it.
Mary,
anybody with a half decent scanner and a slides inset can convert slides. Most graphics shops and others who work with images/graphics can probably do this.
It would be very nice if you found that old article Pete. The boat is almot 'mythical', and there is so little information to be found about it.
Sorry for hijacking the thread..
If you can't find a picture elsewhere, let me know and I will try to find a place that can convert them into photographs. Maybe the company that prints my magazine can do it.
Do you suppose you could get
Wooden Boat
to reprint the article online?
I had 5-10 years of WB mags. but I think they went in the garbage!
I did find this on the
Wooden Boat
site. Each back issue would run you $6.00 each:
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/ADRENALIN (Formula 40 class):/design and construction, history, photos, plans, 87:66
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Also - the Prosail 40s were not one-design in the sense you say. At one point there was trimaran in the mix.
After checking, I see that ProSail started with the Hobie 21s as Mary says, then built a
fleet of Formula 40s albiet a semi One-Design
very similar to Smyth's M&M that won the F40s in Europe in '86.(Seahorse mag Nov/Dec '88)
After the first event in '88, the lovely Gougeon tri Adrenalin joined in. According to Seahorse mag March/April '89, the series went OD after that, using ProSail 40s designed by M&M (the first three were built in '88, another for Smyth '89, and some of his earlier F40s were changed to
convert them back to the ProSail 40 specifications
. The M&M website says that
the Morrelli F-40 became the Prosail one design choice in 1989 and 1990.
So it seems the series was (with one exception, Adrenalin, which was banned after 2 events, and perhaps the less successful Earthwatch?????) One Design.
My bad, thought that was more of a formula than OD class. The footage I have must be more of the early days.