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Picture of the front of my house, March 5th, 2014.

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Posted : March 5, 2014 7:57 pm
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Weather is not climate.

Globally, January was the fourth-warmest on record.

But my house looks like that, too. We haven't seen the ground since December 15, and aren't likely to for another few weeks. Piles at the end of the driveway are still over my head.


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 8:03 pm
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Well thanks Matt, and you lefty's prefer to use the term 'Climate Change'. Global warming my a$$. The temp fluctuates, it has even before man burned fossil fuels, hell, before man even existed!

Maybe you could verify this one for me,
The great lakes have had more ice on them than in 30+years,
it's the coldest temp winters in the Midwest in over 30+ years,
and globally, the planet hasn't warmed in at least 15years.

?


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 8:16 pm
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Originally Posted by mbounds
Weather is not climate.

Globally, January was the fourth-warmest on record.

But my house looks like that, too. We haven't seen the ground since December 15, and aren't likely to for another few weeks. Piles at the end of the driveway are still over my head.

The fourth warmest on record? Where, globally? Not around here it wasnsn't.


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 8:21 pm
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And Matt,

It is my assumption that you were in fact a liberal, basing it solely on the conversatin I was at in Racine WI last year, when you were explaining politics to that Canadian woman, and saying Karl was right a conservative, etc.
I was laughing inside, thinking that although it's not a competition, Karl is to the left of me!

If I assumed this wrong, my apologies,

If not, I'll pray for the USA, and you too.


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 8:40 pm
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Ooo! Ooo! This is fun.

Here's some very real evidence that the amount of snow you experience at your house might not be the most scientific way to measure global temperature. This file shows very clearly how the surface temperatures have been increasing in our industrial age. NASA animated MP4 File

Also note that increasing temperatures lead to shifting climate patterns and instability in between...so yeah, you might get some bouts of colder than normal between the slightly warmer than normal stuff.


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 9:19 pm
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Todd - Here is one source (there are many others) for the

January 2014 4th warmest on record

statement - http://www.businessinsider.com/january-global-record-temps-2014-2

While I was in Australia in January/February, the news was all about the heat wave in South Australia - temps in Adelaide were in the high 40°C range (that's way over 100°F). Meanwhile in Detroit, they were getting slammed with more snow and cold. Like I said, weather (local, short term) is not climate (global, long term). And until you recognize the difference, you'll never understand that local extremes (both hot and cold) are a result of a warming climate.

Yes, the ice cover on the great lakes hasn't been like this since 1979 - but that's not that unusual. Last year was completely the opposite. Humans have very short memories when compared to climatic and geologic time. Climate change (whether man-made or not) tends to happen over time periods greater than one person's lifetime.

But you are woefully ignorant if you think the world has not heated up in the last 15 years:
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I don't wear politics or religion on my shirtsleeves (I prefer to think of myself as a scientific method agnostic, if you must know), and while I appreciate the gesture, I don't need you to pray for me - but go right ahead if it makes you feel better.


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 10:12 pm
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For What It's Worth

http://news.yahoo.com/antarctica-storm-photo-180230536.html

I began instructing middle schoolers in

Environmental Studies

shortly after Yvon Chouinard had his work on rising sea levels published in Surfer magazine (1985). We began comparing his claims with current events and became more alarmed between 1986 and 2008.

While I was in Miami, there was an ice storm on the Gulf Coast. We have NEVER had an ice storm in sixty-five years along the coast, but we have had our share of tropical lows. The Aussie 18s are going off in Sydney Harbor in unusual weather...


 
Posted : March 5, 2014 11:18 pm
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Winter has been very mild in Europe, in fact it's the mildest one recorded so far.
This weekend we will see temperatures of 19 Celsius, which is unheard of at this time of year (not that I'm complaining!).

Although this article is about Scandinavia, I think it counts for northern Europe as a whole :
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/jan/10/polar-vortex-us-mild-weather-scandinavia


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 1:40 am
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Jesus facking Christ. Not this again.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 6:21 am
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That looks like a horrible place to live to me, climate change or not.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 6:23 am
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Todd continues to prove he's a Climate Buffoon.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 9:39 am
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Really Todd, don't buy this stock.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 10:14 am
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Jesus facking Christ. Not this again.

You took the words right out of my mouth...no pun intended.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 10:34 am
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http://www.gocomics.com/shoe#.UxiWWIX5CrU


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 10:39 am
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I don't know about your part of the country, but here
in Las Vegas last January it was near 70-F for a Lot
of the month , (it's usually in the 50's-F).

Still too Cold for me to go sailing, so i kinda don't
get the point of this Thread ? Some Nut-case, posts a
picture of snow in his front yard, and everyone wants
to fight over it ??

Some of you need to get laid ; ladies
are cheap here in Vegas, so do our economy some good and
Come get a Blow-job !! HeHe...

Bille


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 12:55 pm
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Originally Posted by RickWhite

That cartoon is so true.

I was pointing out that overall we are having the coldest/longest winter in over 30 yeares around here.

And, the climate has changed drastically, the most drastic however was before man and before the industrial age.

Do I think the climate changes? Yes.
Do I think there needs to be some regulation as far as industrial polutants a large factory produces? Have you been to PROC lately?


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 1:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Bille
I don't know about your part of the country, but here
in Las Vegas last January it was near 70-F for a Lot
of the month , (it's usually in the 50's-F).

Still too Cold for me to go sailing, so i kinda don't
get the point of this Thread ? Some Nut-case, posts a
picture of snow in his front yard, and everyone wants
to fight over it ??

Some of you need to get laid ; ladies
are cheap here in Vegas, so do our economy some good and
Come get a Blow-job !! HeHe...

Bille

So I'm the nutcase?
The photo wasn't menat to spark any debate whatsoever. I was pointing out we are having a colder, more snowfall winter this year, and the 4 winters I've been here, usually there is little if any snow on the ground by the date of that picture.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 1:22 pm
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yeah, I'm having trouble shoveling all this sunshine off my driveway. It's rough.

Light air sailing Saturday. Gonna fly the screecher and see what happens.

By the way, what is the difference (or not) between:

Code 0
Code 1
Screecher
Hooter
Studdingsail
Chupacabra
Spanker
Skysail
Moonraker
Womper

(I think I know the last few)


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Todd_Sails
The photo wasn't menat to spark any debate whatsoever.

Oh come on Todd, the title of the post is

Climate Change? Yea right, todays house pic...

You got exactly the reaction you were looking for. Boredom... it's a drag.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 2:09 pm
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As I said, DAVID, we're having a longer, colder than usual winter here.
And some have sunshine and 70's.
I'm not trying to debate anything.

Sorry you're bored.

I just got back from taking my 10 yr. old tubing at the awesome sledding hills near our home. We took a hike on the forzen pond, identifying animal tracks in the snow and watching three rather large Deer meander near the sledding hill.

When life gives you lemons.....


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 3:41 pm
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nature's cool. We have several deer who enjoy the shrubbery planted at our community entrance.

Had several black bears rummaging through our garbage a few weeks ago, and two separate spottings of a coyote and a florida panther (later hit and killed on I-75)

Alligator in every pond (and a few swimming pools if you're not careful), birds everywhere... rainbows and unicorns!

Ironically enough, however, I have yet to see the giant boa constrictors that are roaming around. Not that I'm looking for them but....

And judging from the amount of bird poop that piled up this week on the deck of my boat, the Herons are back.

Do those dummy owls work?


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 3:58 pm
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National Geographic presents If All The Ice Melted


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 5:17 pm
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If anyone truly believed in man made climate change they would organize an underground movement where on one day they would all go out and kill every single human they saw. Culling the population is the only viable solution. Anyone doing less than that is just trying to make a buck off the hype.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
If anyone truly believed in man made climate change they would organize an underground movement where on one day they would all go out and kill every single human they saw. Culling the population is the only viable solution. Anyone doing less than that is just trying to make a buck off the hype.

Spoken like a true mass murderer. Have you ever considered a complete neurological workup?


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 7:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
If anyone truly believed in man made climate change they would organize an underground movement where on one day they would all go out and kill every single human they saw. Culling the population is the only viable solution. Anyone doing less than that is just trying to make a buck off the hype.

Just finished reading a book with exactly that plot: VIRUS


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
If anyone truly believed in man made climate change they would organize an underground movement where on one day they would all go out and kill every single human they saw. Culling the population is the only viable solution. Anyone doing less than that is just trying to make a buck off the hype.

Culling the population is the

only

solution? It's not, really. There are tons of talked about options including things to counteract the atmospheric aspects that are contributing to the issue...but they may have unintended consequences so most of those are last ditch efforts should the situation become dire. We probably can still do some stuff to minimize the extent of the damage - but many big businesses are pumping cash into the political system to keep that from affecting their interests.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 8:53 pm
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Welp, if you can convince almost eight billion people to pretend it's 1725 that could work, but I think that's a hard sell.

Terry, who's the author? A Google search is kinda like looking for a needle in a pile of needles.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 9:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Welp, if you can convince almost eight billion people to pretend it's 1725 that could work, but I think that's a hard sell.

Terry, who's the author? A Google search is kinda like looking for a needle in a pile of needles.

CORRECTION:

Title: SICK (A Project Eden Thriller)
Author: Brett Battles

Pretty good read.


 
Posted : March 6, 2014 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Karl_Brogger
Welp, if you can convince almost eight billion people to pretend it's 1725 that could work, but I think that's a hard sell.

Terry, who's the author? A Google search is kinda like looking for a needle in a pile of needles.

hah...true.


 
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