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East Coast endurance race, would you do it?

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danielt1263
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If you don't want one design limitations, but you also don't want someone showing up with a custom made boat. Simply make a rule that whatever boat you sail, there has to be at least 500 others just like it in existence. (Change the number if you think that is too high/low.)

That way, if someone wants to make a custom boat, there will be an incentive to make a new class.


 
Posted : December 3, 2011 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by Team_Cat_Fever
No opinions or suggestions were asked for. The question was simply

would you do the race as described

?
I think it would be great for the sport . The Worrell certainly was.I'm sure a bunch of douchebags that were never involved with it will now bring up it's demise.

I'd do it.
I've done Rough Riders over 12-15 times; GT300 5 times
Currently 156#'s, tip top shape (Masters Swim Team), etc.
And, I'd bring some awesome homebrew beer!
Who needs a team member?


 
Posted : December 5, 2011 11:20 am
 Trey
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Alan's ties run deep in the TVS crowd. He already knows who he'll be sailing with (Bailey and me).

So, if this does come to fruition, TVS would probably put a boat on the line. Sailor vs. sailor, not vs. boat.
OD!

Tad, Derek, Ryan, Allie, and Dr. Kate will surely see us up the coast.
Bailey, you dig?


 
Posted : December 5, 2011 5:15 pm
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Sounds cool. We could have a great team with TVS. My only concern is safety. Last Tybee our greater team had a guy get separated, get in a very scary situation, activate his EPIRB and get rescued all by noon on a Tuesday morning. It really shook up his team but in the grand scheme of things it was really mild compared to what the 1Ker could bring. (catchy name - 1Ker?)

I know others have done it before, but I don't want to see anyone get seriously hurt. Any thoughts on what would help avoid a serious situation where boats are spread out, it's dark and cold in heavy air, and something really bad happens?


 
Posted : December 6, 2011 10:10 am
Todd A. Hart
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<**** event. The boats will definitely be spread out, it will be dark 1/2 the time, and depending on when they run it it could be cold(It was in may,at night). The safest way to negotiate all of these obstacles is to stay home and play video games.


 
Posted : December 6, 2011 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by Alan'osauras

Excellent. Now to get you on my team.

Ok, so now I should open the floor to bids for my skipper or crew skills for this as of yet theoretical race to help pay for my less expensive than OD boat.

Shouldn't we get Team Watertribe? I mean we should have no problem with finding ground crew volunteers. and we may talk Randy into it.


 
Posted : December 6, 2011 10:43 pm
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Colin and I are in 100%.

The specific rules don't matter we are down for whatever race gets put on.

As far as the type of boat, OD, etc. I think it should be as open as possible to encourage participation. There should be some upper limit so that a cruiser doesn't just do the race non stop. I'm thinking a big broad box rule ie less than 22 feet no cabins or engines, ok go. It needs some more detail, but I like the line of thought.

No lower limit. They did the course on hobie 16s in the past, why not again?

Todd is right no matter what its not going to be 100% safe, and that's part of the fun.

In the 2000-2002 Worrells there was quite a bit of sponsorship. Obviously it wasn't NASCAR, but there were sponsors. The sponsors dwindled after the Worrell died, I think largely do to the Tybee for a variety of reasons never being as well publicized as its predecessor. The Worrell was in almost every newspaper up the coast and I can remember multiple evening news stories.

Whatever race forms, marketing is the key, not just to the competitors, but to outside parties. Distance racing is cool and there is always plenty of drama. I haven't done a Tybee that wasn't full of great moments and stories, from both the racing and the people. Its a matter of getting those out to interested parties. If the world cup of handball can make ESPN 3 so can we.


 
Posted : December 10, 2011 9:14 pm
 Karl
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You guys need Dana Brown. I think that's his name. He did

Dust To Glory

which was about the Baja 1000, and his father made

Endless Summer

.


 
Posted : December 10, 2011 9:22 pm
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Why not add the Corsairs / Farrier trimaran classes?
They can sail cleanup
(if the regatta could use a bit more safety/insurance/towing an offshore dis-masted cat/or fallen crew pickup?).


 
Posted : December 11, 2011 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by sail7seas
Why not add the Corsairs / Farrier trimaran classes?
They can sail cleanup
(if the regatta could use a bit more safety/insurance/towing an offshore dis-masted cat/or fallen crew pickup?).

They we go. Now I'd be in. Must be gettin' old...


 
Posted : December 11, 2011 5:22 pm
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While we're at it, why not just allow power boats too?


 
Posted : December 12, 2011 8:51 am
Todd A. Hart
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Originally Posted by Undecided
While we're at it, why not just allow power boats too?

And airplanes.


 
Posted : December 12, 2011 10:50 am
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Ocean sailing is inherently dangerous which is part of the draw. By mandating tracking units on each boat and personal EPIRB's ON each sailor, you will be solving 98% of the worst scenarios. The other 2% can't be eliminated and you should stay home if you don't like it.

I would like to see it as an open race to all boats from 18' to 22' spinnaker equipped. This would actually give me an option to do the race. I am not going to go out and buy a boat to do the race and would not really care to charter one.


 
Posted : December 12, 2011 10:58 am
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Am I correct in assuming that once you flip on the EPIRB, you will pretty much be abandoning your vessel?

I don't think the coasties are in the vessel-tow busines, right?


 
Posted : December 12, 2011 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Am I correct in assuming that once you flip on the EPIRB, you will pretty much be abandoning your vessel?

I don't think the coasties are in the vessel-tow busines, right?

Most of the situations in which you activate the EPIRB are due to the fact that for one reason or another, said boat is unavailable to the sailor activating the EPIRB.

(Translation:

You dun fell off the dang floatie thing

)


 
Posted : December 12, 2011 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
Am I correct in assuming that once you flip on the EPIRB, you will pretty much be abandoning your vessel?

I don't think the coasties are in the vessel-tow busines, right?

You are correct. My statement was the worst case scenario which is loss of life (lost at sea). You can activate the SPOT trackers to send a help message to your road crew. You can also tie your SPOT tracker to automatically contact Boat US if

Help

is pressed.

Basic Membership

is $34/year,

Unlimited Salt Water Towing

is $159/year.

Each boat should also have cellphone and VHF radio to coordinate outside assistance, along with other Tybee 500/GT 300 type safety equipment.

I was just addressing the safety issue, not the property issue which is of lot lesser concern. If you do this race, you should be prepared to abandon vessel in worst case. If you leave the vessel, you can reset your SPOT to track so you can find the boat again.


 
Posted : December 12, 2011 2:02 pm
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Or VHF Channel 16? a trailing fleet of Corsair / Farrier trimarans, if time is of the essence?


 
Posted : December 12, 2011 2:09 pm
pgp
 pgp
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Any progress? Tentative dates?


 
Posted : December 15, 2011 8:59 am
Todd A. Hart
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Nothing yet.


 
Posted : December 15, 2011 9:38 am
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Rescue Laser Flare?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfyTjqfP13o


 
Posted : December 31, 2011 11:41 am
 samc
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Originally Posted by NCSUtrey
Alan's ties run deep in the TVS crowd. He already knows who he'll be sailing with (Bailey and me).

So, if this does come to fruition, TVS would probably put a boat on the line. Sailor vs. sailor, not vs. boat.
OD!

Tad, Derek, Ryan, Allie, and Dr. Kate will surely see us up the coast.
Bailey, you dig?

You can damn well be sure I'll be putting another TVS boat on the line (and I already have the 2 sailors and ground support team needed to make it happen, they just don't know it yet). I'll run whatever, OD or tricked out N20/F18. Just tell me where the start is and I'll (hopefully) see you at the bar at the finish.


 
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