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(@sundance1933)
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[#24099]

HELP!

I have a new Garmin 76Cx and am trying to get it loaded for the Steeplechase next weekend. However, I cannot get our planned course to show any details when I download the course.

On my computer I have lain (?) out both legs with all the waypoints and such and everything shows, such as day markers, shoals, rocks, etc.

When I download it to the GPS unit, all I see are the waypoints. No course line and no details.

Of course, Garmin tech support is not open until Monday at 8AM, so I am hoping to get this resolved today or tomorrow.

Any Garmin experts out there?


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 10:08 am
Philip
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Jack,
Is your

planned course

saved as a route? . . . and make sure that map details is set on highest on the handheld.


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 10:16 am
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Originally Posted by mummp
Jack,
Is your

planned course

saved as a route? . . . and make sure that map details is set on highest on the handheld.

I'm not sure. Details are at the highest level though.

I'm checking now on the

saved route

tip.


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 10:24 am
Jake Kohl
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Jack,

The waypoints need to be entered sequentially into a route. Then you go to navigate and choose the route you want to navigate. It will start with the first waypoint in that route and once your VMG goes negative for that waypoint, it will automatically switch to the next one.

I usually setup a

day1

route and a

day2

route.

I use my GPS setup with a bearing to the next mark. This way I can look at my compass and tell if I'm headed right at it or at what kind of angles we're sailing to the next point. If it's a finish line, I watch our compass angles to the shore and make that last gybe when the bearing shown on the GPS matches that number.


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by Jake
Jack,

The waypoints need to be entered sequentially into a route. Then you go to navigate and choose the route you want to navigate. It will start with the first waypoint in that route and once your VMG goes negative for that waypoint, it will automatically switch to the next one.

I usually setup a

day1

route and a

day2

route.

I've done all that Jake. I have both days laid/lain out in sequence, with notes, etc. It looks fine on the computer.

OK...now I have successfully downloaded the course track and waypoints, still no details other than the waypoints I marked.


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 11:08 am
Jake Kohl
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are you looking for map features like land, channels, markers, etc.?


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 11:12 am
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Did you download the chart set to your GPS? It took me a couple of trys to figure that part out.
My 76 only had a low detail map that it came with, you had to buy and install a Bluechart set.
John


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 11:27 am
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Originally Posted by Jake
are you looking for map features like land, channels, markers, etc.?

Yes, all the daymarkers, depth graduations, etc.

Or...do they not show on the GPS unit...only the base map in the computer?

The land shows, but again no details.

I think the base map in the GPS is covering the detailed map for some reason.

Also, when I download, the dialogue box has

waypoints

and

routes

active, and

maps

greyed out.

I think the detailed map is not being transferred.

I have tried everything and suppose I will have to call tech Monday unless you have any more ideas.

I hate this crap...I just want to sail the boat!

Thanks Jake


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 11:33 am
Jake Kohl
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If maps is greyed out it could be one of two things:

1) your GPS unit may need a firmware update (check www.garmin.com support)

2) the basic software doesn't come with that information in it. You have to purchase the marine chart for that region. If you have that marine chart (and can see all the channel markers and navigation aids in Mapsource), you need to unlock your GPS to work with that map set. The marine chart resource CD should have the information about how to unlock your GPS unit. You are allowed two GPS units to unlock with any one of the marine chart regions - their security is pretty tight with those charts (as they make a fortune on them).


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 12:05 pm
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Pretty simple Jack,
Go to the map page on the handheld and go into set-up, select the map datum you want to display, and de-select any other map datums in the area of the route (i.e. de-select City Navigator). When you get to the keys, select the route and tell it to navigate.


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 12:12 pm
Jake Kohl
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Oh yeah! Phil got it right - there's a tool that looks like Missouri. Use it to select the map areas you want to upload to the GPS before syncing.


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 12:26 pm
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Garmin only allows one device unlock per license, as of last year. Garmin was forced to change policy due to their contract with NavTeq (whom provides the datum). Garmin took alot of sh!t from their pissed off loyal customers because of it. Garmin has tried to make it easier with reduced prices with updates to a licensed product. Garmin has been working hard to address the high costs of licenses with NavTeq. Seems to me that Navteq pretty much has got the bull by the balls. The contract expires in 2015, and there are only a couple of players (Tele Atlas), the other in bed with Garmin's competition. Garmin tried unsuccessfully to buy both of them.


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 12:48 pm
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Originally Posted by mummp
Garmin only allows one device unlock per license

I am making a little progress and I'm sure it is just operator error.

I did buy and unlock the chart software for the region (BlueChart Americas).

It appears I have several conflicting maps that interfere with each other.

Phil, are you saying I cannot really see my route until I actually get to the location?

Right now I am 600 miles away in SC.

Can I not preview or simulate the route on the handheld unit?


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Mugrace72
[quote=mummp]

Can I not preview or simulate the route on the handheld unit?

OK...I got it!

Maps and details are on.

What a great country!

Thanks Jake and Phil.


 
Posted : December 6, 2008 1:44 pm
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Posted : December 7, 2008 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by Tikipete

I'm not sure Pete.

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Posted : December 7, 2008 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by Mugrace72

W T F is

reclaimed sheepskin

anyway? <img src="<>/smirk.gif" alt="smirk" title="smirk" height="15" width="15" />

Where do you see that?


 
Posted : December 7, 2008 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by Tikipete
Originally Posted by Mugrace72

W T F is

reclaimed sheepskin

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Where do you see that?

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Posted : December 7, 2008 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by Mugrace72

I hate this crap...I just want to sail the boat!

NEW INSTRUCTIONS: Put electronics away in trunk... raise sails and.... (wait for it).... just sail!


 
Posted : December 8, 2008 12:17 pm
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Does anyone have any sort of list of coordinates for the Steeplechase they could send me or give me Friday?
I just bought a new GPS but didn't buy any of the software to upload routes and etc... do I need this?
I also have a mac.. so would I have a hard time with any of this software?
Thanks!
-Todd


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 9:21 am
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Originally Posted by wildtsail
Does anyone have any sort of list of coordinates for the Steeplechase they could send me or give me Friday?
I just bought a new GPS but didn't buy any of the software to upload routes and etc... do I need this?
I also have a mac.. so would I have a hard time with any of this software?
Thanks!
-Todd

Your screwed ... twice. You need the software and I have no idea if it will run on a mac!

Check your email - I mailed you my files for steeplechase - but beware...they're old and make SURE they have the right bridge marked for day2. Won't help much unless you have the Garmin software though.


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 9:49 am
Todd A. Hart
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We'll see if we can get something worked out for ya.Don't sweat it. You know it is possible to input them from a paper chart, without a computer(EEEgads,the horror) like we used to have to do it.
The Todd


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 9:59 am
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Todd (Wildsail), you are screwed as for the easy way, but I think you still have a few options. The painful way is use the handheld to build the route. It can be done it is just slow panning around on the map to select the waypoints for the route. You can also use the coordinates (lat/long) that Jake sent. The other long shot is. . . .check and see if someone else has a current

cX

series hand held, including the legend series. Both have microSD flash memory. You should be able to copy the route and/or waypoints from someone else's handheld memory to the microSD flash memory, put the card in your unit, and then transfer the waypoints and/or route to your unit's memory. Wish I was there.


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by wildtsail
Does anyone have any sort of list of coordinates for the Steeplechase they could send me or give me Friday?

Can't help you with that one.

Originally Posted by wildtsail
I just bought a new GPS but didn't buy any of the software to upload routes and etc... do I need this?
I also have a mac.. so would I have a hard time with any of this software?
Thanks!
-Todd

What's your brand of GPS? They all have software for the mac, from tomtom to Garmin via Magellan. Search versiontracker.com for your brand of GPS for a start.


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 1:20 pm
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I just bought the Garmin GPSMap 76... I don't really feel like throwing down $150 for the bluechart or whatever software at this time.

Anyone know if the waypoint manager software that's a free download from westmarine.com would work?


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 3:35 pm
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Waypoint manager software (better known in the Garmin world as Mapsource)is free for all and works with any related Garmin product and it's here.


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 3:58 pm
Philip
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. . . and for you Mac folks.


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 4:07 pm
Jake Kohl
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Originally Posted by mummp
Waypoint manager software (better known in the Garmin world as Mapsource)is free for all and works with any related Garmin product and it's here.

You have to already have Mapsource installed for that update to run on your computer. You CAN, however, download and install the Garmin

training center

and the Mapsource download will recognize that as an installation and install properly.


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 4:14 pm
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Your in the right place for software. I purchased a Map 76CSX and a software package earlier this year of ebay. There is a grey area with the software in America that people can sell chunks of the software for a state or given area. I got Southern and Eastern Australia Bluechart, Citi Navigator 2009 and 250,000 km2 Contours for Australia all bundled together on one card for $170 all I had to do was put the card in and go. The guy I got it from in Australia was really helpfull with getting me up and going and I still ask him questions now which he happily answers. In Aus we have some free land based map sets called Shonky Maps and Tracks for Australia. I have recorded my sailing track on Tracks for Australia, you may have something similar in US. PM me if you want the e-mail for the guy that organised my mapsets
regards


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 4:15 pm
Jake Kohl
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training center download

http://www8.garmin.com/support/collection.jsp?product=999-99999-04


 
Posted : December 10, 2008 4:24 pm
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