so if no us boats got into gold fleet that means the Mike and Robbie did not get onto US team?
I could be wrong, but my understanding is:
1. Top 25 boats make the gold fleet. Split is made after Wednesday racing, as long as three races completed by each fleet.
2. Top two US boats make the US Sailing team- I don't think there is an additional requirement to make the gold fleet, but I'm not certain.
Hmmm, the question is why are no U.S boats in the top 25?? We have 3 years to the Olympics and based on today's results we have a lot of work to do as a team. I know 1 regatta doesn't speak every truth but my armchair interpretation of the results is we need more large, competitive fleet practice on the 17.
You are undoubtedly not alone in making that observation. Let's hope something comes of it.
As for the jury decision, it's possible that it cannot be appealed. Presumably, an IJ was in place?
Mike
Is there any chance Taylor could request redress and have the time factor re - considered? That would be good experience for a youth sailor, and with RD's coaching might shave some points off his final score. Given the tide/current evidence, maybe Taylor could swing a reversal of the jury's decision. I would hate to see him just accept the decision without a second effort.
My understanding is that the top two USA teams are measured by US Sailing and not by the ISAF, but I stand to be corrected. Sometimes regattas of this magnitude require aggression on the water and in the 'room' as well.
Let's hope tomorrow is a better day since Taylor and Catherine finished today's racing with a fourteenth. Ya gotta love the kid's dedication.
I don't see how they can
appeal.
RRS 66 could allow the hearing to be reopened, as follows:
The protest committee may reopen a hearing when it decides that it may have made a significant error, or when significant new evidence becomes available within a reasonable time.
Technically, that's not an appeal.
Furthermore, per RRS 70.5:
There shall be no appeal from the decisions of an international jury constituted in compliance with Appendix N.
So, if the IJ is properly constituted, there can be no
appeal.
Worse than that, if the decision was made by an umpire boat, there is pretty much no hope for a boat-driven request to reopen or appeal (section Q of the SIs). I have no clue why it would be desirable for this to be so draconian.
SIs are here: http:/
NOR is here: http:/
Section 12 states:
An International Jury will be appointed in accordance with RRS 91(b). Its decisions will be final as provided in RRS 70.5.
RRS 62.1 (a) says a boat may request redress, or a PC may consider redress, for
an improper action or omission of the race committee, protest committee, organizing authority, equipment inspection committee or measurement committee for the event, but not by a protest committee decision when the boat was a party to the hearing.
While all hope may not be lost, I'd say it's looking pretty bleak to change this decision...
Mike
I meant reopen, my bad.
Looking back at the tracker, I can see where the jury felt the one turn penalty was not completed correctly. Tough situation, hope they make the most of the rest of the week- lots of time until the games!
This would be a country qualifying event I believe.
What this would mean is that as of now it does not matter who is on the US team as there is not US slot at the Olympics yet.
I foresee a lot more international travel or we will be sitting out another quad
I don't believe this worlds is a country qualifying event. Those usually don't happen until a year and a half to a year before the games.
Spots on the US Sailing Team are valuable because they come with increased funding, coaching, shipping assistance, physical training, etc.
Had a chance to talk with Mike briefly this morning, it has been a tough week so far for the US team, but they are all focused on improving and gaining the most out of the regatta. All the teams suffer from lack of time in the boat, especially in racing situations, but that will certainly improve. Sounds like a couple minor injuries among the US contingent, muscle pulls and such that show how physically demanding the boat is to race.
Mike also mentioned he misses the post race 'Gansett!
Not sure if I missed it somewhere......Does anyone know what mast is being used?
Anyone know how they are scoring the Medal race?
The NOR is written in English but I will be damned if I can figure it out. They split the fleet... Usually you carry your points forward. but they talk about forwarding your position. ??? Usually you don't get a discard of your qualifying scores... but that does n't seem to be the case.. Then they have a medal race for sat in gold and silver fleets ... which usually means double points... for the top ten in a fleet... but ???? It looks like everyone races for normal points and they just call the final race a medal race.????
Thoughts?
So 4 US teams made the top ten in silver and should be racing Saturday.
Five US Teams are competing. Two team make the US Team. Does this mean that the other three teams are doen with their Olympic hopes after this regatta? Or is this just that the top two teams are on the team and they get the financing and support from US Sailing and the others have do this on their own? I would think that this is way too early in the cycle to pair it down to two teams.
Correct... this is about funding for the year. Under Brenner, the Olympic team made training opportunities available to all the qualified sailors, they were essentially on the team... but also made firm performance benchmarks for all of the fleets for the top 2 teams who would be designated US Sailing Team members and get the bulk of the funding. The big change was that the sailors actually had to train and practice as a team... not the individual efforts of the past. They actually put it in writing and most of the sailors liked the system. The Olympic review liked this process and the use of the money.
Now the upsets start when two person teams break up or one sailor drops out of the Olympic effort... how does the training money follow... Or what happens when individuals want to break off and do their own training regime....
Other than A cats, who/when was the last US beach cat team to impress us (on the podium) at a Worlds or greater event?
Mike
The third place US team will be on the Development Team.
Less than 1 hour to go to lower AP, I'm at a race just 10km away but I doubt they will have a decent race (no wind!).
This TracTrac application is fantastic, very easy to use. Since all the USA boats are in the silver fleet, i've been using the
selection
option which shows a race with just the 5 USA boats. Since the top two get on the Olympic team, its race all itself, and it is very competitive.
I really don't know who I want to win, they are all great sailors. Mike Easton and Tripp Burd are rock stars from my home state. I saw them kick as at the F18 demonstration event at the AC45 world series last year. Robbie is great guy and given me some coaching recently, so great to see doing well. Sarah and John are committed and been working extremely hard, so they deserve it, and can't not forget about the Yute, Taylor Reiss.