Nacra 20 FCS vs M32 vs Foiling Kite vs Moth - Featuring JC
Jake.... face it... we are getting old...
This is the new way to communicate.... build the hype.... tease the story. Hey... Could have been worse... a couple of vines... At the very least... they could have had some really hot babes walk thru.... if what you are selling is eye candy.... go with the universal and timeless bikini shots.
I would have given them a bit of a pass for wasting my time...
This is the new way to communicate.... build the hype.... tease the story. Hey... Could have been worse... a couple of vines... At the very least... they could have had some really hot babes walk thru.... if what you are selling is eye candy.... go with the universal and timeless bikini shots.
I would have given them a bit of a pass for wasting my time...
lol
(see, I'm catching on)
At 1:29 ; it appears the Kite-board with the foil
is out-front . The kite is about $2.5K and the foil
with board is close to the same ; so for $5 grand, you
can beat a Much more expensive machine !!
Part of that is because the kite is probably on 27 to
30 meter lines ; so it can catch cleaner air, since
the center of effort, is coming from 10 to 15-M above the water.
Also , the kite is helping a Lot to lift the weight
of the rider out of the water, so the foil can fly at a
lower AOA than the sailboats.
I got a sponsor, to learn to kite-board with a foil this
summer ; my Hobie 21 will be use a LOT this summer for
camping trips with all my kiteing equipment at Lake Mohave.
Good or Bad, I'll let Ya know , how my foiling experience goes ...
Bille
No way the Nacra will be faster than that, just like the AC45's weren't faster than the AC72's.
AC45s didn't foil. They're already reporting that they have them going as fast as the 72s now that they've modified them for foiling...but I digress.
M32 does not foil. It has curved boards, but it is not fully foiling.
Fastest around the course, likely by a long way, will be the foiling kiteboard. Just so much more efficient than any of the others.
Second IMHO is an interesting question between the Moth and the Nacra. Moth is certainly more refined and likely faster upwind, but lacks the extra downwind sail area of the Nacra.
The Marstrom is quick, but I really don't see it matching the others unless it is light enough where the moth and Nacra aren't foiling. In that case, the moth would be last by a lot.
Details form Pat Rynne:
Here are some more details about the races. We only had enough time to run 2 Windward Leewards. Here is the scoop
- Weather mark was about 1.5 miles upwind
- Breeze was about 15 knots, everybody was powered
- Kiter was using a 12 square meter kite
- Bay chop was moderate (1-2 feet)
- Plastic bags and sargasso weed WERE present throughout the course
Athletes
Kite - Zack Marks (head sailing coach at Eckerd College)
Moth - Jonny Goldsberry
Nacra - John Casey and Colin Page
M32 - Anthony Kotoun, Tommy Loughborough, Tripp Burd, Cy Thompson, Jeremy Wilmot
Who made the video, why, and if it's already done, why do we have to wait until March 11 to see it?
Here's some Kites Vs. big Trimaran while you wait for March 11:
http:/
Video was made by Pat Rynne and the folks at Waterlust. Pat is a PhD student at University of Miami, sailed for Brown in college, did and Olympic campaign in the 49er. Very good sailor.
Check out http://www.waterlust.org/ to see more of their stuff.
As for why do we have to wait? Probably because it causes conversations like this one!

The previous instalment in the series was Kite vs Moth vs 49er.
For a windward leeward course my predictions are:
- The kite is going to be ahead. By a lot. Plus the kite can go around another boat easily as the kite flies high and over the other boats disturbed air…
- Second should be the moth. With a good driver the moth never goes down to floating mode, and always foils all around the course. Unless the pilot looses it, something always possible on those instable beasts.
- Third will be the Nacra20, as long as it can foil upwind. If it can't the M32 is going to eat it for lunch (32', 500kgs!)
This said, whoever takes the start fully powered on the gun is going to have a massive advantage.

Your
WRONG
Dude !!
The world speed record for a kite, was done in a channel
with 40+ mph wind and only went in one direction ...
however
the closed-course pylon racing where the contestants have
to go around a circle of some type in both directions, the
hydrofoils are now Eating-UP the race-boards, that use to dominate !!!
Kiting hydrofoils are now doing over 40-mph and will soon be
overtaking the AC-72's . (Smile) because you can do that
with $5-K worth of equipment !
Bille
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