Q: is a cat suitable for this:
Hi all,
I've been away from sailing for a while, pursuing other interests. Now I'm looking for a quick'n easy solution to getting out on the water again from time to time. Renting has crossed my mind, but it's hard to rent a cat where I live.
I'm used to mucking about in open keelboats which, as you know, get their stability via primitive means, usually involving a sizeable hunk of lead.
What I believe I need now is:
1) easily trailerable behind a typical continental (no, not a Lincoln) economy car.
2) stowable inside my garage which is max 6m (+/-20') long.
3) available second hand at a (ridiculously) tight budget.
4) Here's what I believe to be the hard part: Able to be dry sailed like your typical keelboat. So you don't need a wet suit in gentle weather. I don't mind reefing to keep the boat stable, but the low clearance of a cat probably makes it impossible to stay dry at all, right?
Could anyone either
a) recommend a suitable model
or
b) tell me whether or not I'm totally out of my mind.
Thanks in advance,
Dennis
I've been away from sailing for a while, pursuing other interests. Now I'm looking for a quick'n easy solution to getting out on the water again from time to time. Renting has crossed my mind, but it's hard to rent a cat where I live.
I'm used to mucking about in open keelboats which, as you know, get their stability via primitive means, usually involving a sizeable hunk of lead.
What I believe I need now is:
1) easily trailerable behind a typical continental (no, not a Lincoln) economy car.
2) stowable inside my garage which is max 6m (+/-20') long.
3) available second hand at a (ridiculously) tight budget.
4) Here's what I believe to be the hard part: Able to be dry sailed like your typical keelboat. So you don't need a wet suit in gentle weather. I don't mind reefing to keep the boat stable, but the low clearance of a cat probably makes it impossible to stay dry at all, right?
Could anyone either
a) recommend a suitable model
or
b) tell me whether or not I'm totally out of my mind.
Thanks in advance,
Dennis
b) 4)mostly

For the style of sailing you wish to do I would look into a Maine Cat 22. I'm not sure if they are being made anymore, but they would be perfect for the sailing you want to do. However, the size may not fit your garage, and the price may not be very low. It is trailerable (hinges in the middle). Also look for old Cougars, they came in wood and fiberglass, obviously you'd probably want the glass one. Not too common, but you might be able to scare one up.
PTP: I live in the south of the Netherlands.
TikiPete: The Wharram Tiki does look nice, I have his catalogue lying around from years ago. I'll go and dig it up. By miostly, do you mean mostly dry or mostly wet? I'm talking about sailing at below 4 Bft, above that I'd expect to get wet in any small boat on less than sheltered waters.
Boudicca: The shark looks nice, the designer must have been ages ahead of his time.
Thanks a lot everyone for helping out!
TikiPete: The Wharram Tiki does look nice, I have his catalogue lying around from years ago. I'll go and dig it up. By miostly, do you mean mostly dry or mostly wet? I'm talking about sailing at below 4 Bft, above that I'd expect to get wet in any small boat on less than sheltered waters.
Boudicca: The shark looks nice, the designer must have been ages ahead of his time.
Thanks a lot everyone for helping out!
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You may want to look at the older P-Cats (not Prindle). I think they are actually called Pacific Cats. They are completely fiberglass and are very comfortable boats to sail. They have a **** on each side that lets you sit in them as you would a large monohull.
They are heavy, I think about 700 lbs. This is the boat that most aged catamaran sailors in California coveted when they were young. Maybe the reason we are on a catamaran at all.
Later,
Dan ![[Linked Image]](http://catsailor.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10093/normal_P%20Cat.jpg)
Thanks everyone,
Dan, thanks for the P-cat tip and the pictures. This probably comes closest to what I need (to convince the wife)...
Sparky, thanks for the tramp tip, I'll keep my eyes peeled although they are very rare in these parts. I'm actually planning to build a Farrier design at some point in the future, but 'things' will have to settle down before I take on a project like that.
I think I'll just hang-out here for a while and just lurk. Who knows I just might learn something from you guys.
Dennis
Mast is about 25'storage outdoors-recommemded-as long is it is off the ground you should be OK. About the P-Cat sailed one in the '70's the **** are self draining they have a 2" pipe that leads throught the rear of the hull to the transom. When there is a breeze the rubber gaskets at the bottom of the centerboard wells allow a jet of water to come up behind or in front of the board and that fountain drains throught the transom too. Not a bad light air boat for how heavy it is since it has 267 sq. ft. of sail. Much faster than the Aqua Cat it replaced. We sailed in Erie PA so we usually stayed dry when possible.
John
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