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Tornado OCR's... the FUBAR by US Saling... again

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(@stank)
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Move it to Naples.


 
Posted : February 2, 2007 12:03 pm
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Ok - here's the status;

NAs are over and I was able to talk with some sailors and people close to the event. Moving the launch area to Matheson Hammock Park, while attractive, presents other logistcal hurdles that will have to be considered. Nothing I have heard yet is insurmountable, and the primary issues are these:

1) More-experienced and additional staff/boats are needed to support the fleet. One inexperienced boat in addition to the primary boat is below standard.
2) It is essential to get the fleet easy access an official notice board. The on-line option this year failed server-side, and internet access from the launch area is problematic.
3) It is essential to get the SIs to adopt by reference the Tornado Championship Conditions. As a Grade 1 event, all Class rules should have been observed in order to be consistent with other international-level events.
4) It is essential to establish a better logistical relationship between the race area and the launch site. Matheson is an option with some planning and if the City will allow the boats to use grassy areas, but the narrow channel still is a major choke point. Other options need to be explored and planning now, less than a year from the next event, is required.

NONE of these things are impossible - IMO, they aren't even all that difficult to achieve. Let's move forward with reasoned and deliberative resolve. Any participants are welcome to send more feedback - this issue is officially on the agenda for March. <img src=

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Posted : February 2, 2007 12:57 pm
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I nominate JWill for President.


 
Posted : February 2, 2007 1:31 pm
Chris9
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Please don't stop taking issue with Mark though, its keeping him from focusing on me. <img src=

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Posted : February 2, 2007 1:53 pm
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Thank you John for putting it on the agenda.

Hopefully someone will take action.

(Perhaps my delibertly loud and obnoxious rant will get some action at US Sailing Olynpic.this year ... certainly my previous three years of quiet correspondance have resulted in LESS service and competence.)

And now on to CHRIS..... How about pushing through an icebreaker replacment at the WRCRA Spring Regatta for all of the boats left behind at WRCRA! Haven't I dropped enough hints that this is a win win for all parties.
WRSA gets the cash. all of the fleets get to race. Nobody is left sitting home with out a race to play at.

Ball is in your court.


 
Posted : February 2, 2007 2:57 pm
Chris9
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Can't one of you distract him! Please!

Oh look, theres an Eagle.

See you tonight dude! Its a good thing that I'm almost of the generation that likes any kind of attention. Good, bad doesn't matter.

To address your ideas directly Mark, join and help make the difference that I agree with you is needed. And buy a Nacra 20 while your at it.


 
Posted : February 2, 2007 3:42 pm
Jake Kohl
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Can't one of you distract him! Please!

Oh look, theres an Eagle.

See you tonight dude! Its a good thing that I'm almost of the generation that likes any kind of attention. Good, bad doesn't matter.

To address your ideas directly Mark, join and help make the difference that I agree with you is needed. And buy a Nacra 20 while your at it.

What a classic!

Oh look! An EAGLE!


 
Posted : February 2, 2007 7:26 pm
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I raced both the OCR & NA's...just got back home (Los Angeles) last night. First internet access in two weeks.

Yes, Crandon park is a long way from course Echo where the OCR races were held. The NA racing was much closer to Crandon Park...about 2-4 miles out, just off of another marina/club along key biscayne (and about two blocks from my rental house for the two weeks!).

I'm surprised to hear a guy like Bundy gets tuckered out from the daily OCR

commute

...I'm in less than top shape, but somehow managed it 5 days in a row (we were the only boat in the fleet to go out to the course (90 min.) on the Tuesday to wait for wind...never came and we just enjoyed the nice 1.5 hour sail home).

Yes, it is a long ride and something better should be provided. With the 44 boats entered this year (result of the Worlds being in Argentina last December), it was a little ridiculous not having decent facilities at Crandon Park (some teams were thinking of protesting the event, as the class rules for grade1 events require showers/changing rooms/food services nearby, boat washdown for more than just two at a time like we had at Crandon.

Not having the official notice board on site was a problem,...a few days we didn't even see the previous day's results until after returning from the race course. This could be a significant issue for teams in close battles to make sure they know who they must cover that day...And when we wanted to get the official results corrected for some scoring errors, we were told to fax or phone the PRO across the bay at the US sailing center.

Sailing to/from Echo each day was made tougher by having to avoid sailing through other courses as outlined in the SI's from the OCR...sometimes the detour would cost you a lot more time/work. On the very wild Day4, we (and many other teams) were so cold and nearing hypothermia, during the return trip we just needed to get back ASAP...and had to cut through a couple of the courses (Star & Windsurfers).

Mike.


 
Posted : February 4, 2007 6:21 pm
TEAMVMG
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I'm in less than top shape, but somehow managed it 5 days in a row

were so cold and nearing hypothermia

Make your mind up! If you were near hypothermia without any support boat you very nearly didn't manage did you!


 
Posted : February 5, 2007 4:27 am
(@tornadokc247)
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Talking about two different things here...one being tired from the work out of getting to/from the course...the other being caught out by a sudden cold front without the right clothing on.

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I'm in less than top shape, but somehow managed it 5 days in a row

were so cold and nearing hypothermia

Make your mind up! If you were near hypothermia without any support boat you very nearly didn't manage did you!


 
Posted : February 5, 2007 2:11 pm
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