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Mary, Rick et al:

The officers and board of GYC have asked me to invite the IWCA to attend our April regatta. In the past few years this event has grown and typically involves A class, F18 and F16. The Waves will be a welcome addition.

Also, we have a very relaxed winter membership program for those who would like to stay awhile.


 
Posted : December 21, 2009 3:20 pm
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Originally Posted by pgp
Mary, Rick et al:

The officers and board of GYC have asked me to invite the IWCA to attend our April regatta. In the past few years this event has grown and typically involves A class, F18 and F16. The Waves will be a welcome addition.

Also, we have a very relaxed winter membership program for those who would like to stay awhile.

What are the dates?


 
Posted : December 21, 2009 4:05 pm
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April 9-11. http://www.gulfportyachtclub.com/


 
Posted : December 21, 2009 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by pgp

Damn...can't make it but there is a major Wave gathering the weekend before at Stan and Sharon Woodruffs place near Ruskin.

Perhaps some Wave folks would do both.


 
Posted : December 21, 2009 4:15 pm
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Right on. We will have about 15 boats sailing at Woodruff's Invitational on April 3-4. That might work out great.
Rick


 
Posted : December 21, 2009 4:28 pm
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Bring it! The more the merrier!


 
Posted : December 21, 2009 6:19 pm
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Yeah its Christmas... I should be charitable and let this pass ... but some things make no sense and you just have to ask the hard questions...

Pete...

Why do you think the Wave's are looking to do more regattas?
Usually... the fleet asks the club to host their event.... not the other way around.

Rick
Do you think most of the Waves will do back to back regattas?

Pete... Are you sure enough about their turnout to go buy trophies ahead of time?

All,
I am wondering What your thinking is?? Why is scheduling more regattas better for the class? Is there a home fleet of Waves that hopes that the other wave sailors will reciprocate and show up at your club for the event? Are the Wave sailors known for showing up in force at back to back regattas?

If 2 waves show up...Is that good for the Wave Class? More importantly... Do they show up next year? Did they show up to the traditional regatta or... do they pick the most convenient one? Do they pick the one with the rep for a turnout... leaving the your club... with a table of trophies?

Your club might be the only one in America that thinks mixing three high performance cat fleets with Waves is a good idea.

See the thread on last years Tradewinds regatta where splitting the non spin and spin boats was viewed as critical and waves are a special breed again.

Do you promise to separate the two for safety reasons on separate race courses? I don't live in Florida... but as an A Class sailor... I would probably not attend the regatta based on mixing in Waves on the same race course.

I must be missing something about how you guys schedule and mix classes at events to strengthen the sport. What am I missing?


 
Posted : December 21, 2009 9:26 pm
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Once again Mark - you're sticking your omnipresent nose into business that does not concern you.

Go make your own thread to rain on. Leave everyone elses' alone. You bring nothing but misery and frustration to every post you interject your unwanted opinions in.

Now apologize to both Pete and the Waves - who were having a happy and collaborative space here before you came in and utterly ruined it with more of your BS.


 
Posted : December 21, 2009 9:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
Yeah its Christmas... I should be charitable and let this pass ... but some things make no sense and you just have to be an butt with the hard questions...
What am I missing?

<img src="<>/mad.gif" alt="mad" title="mad" height="15" width="15" /> Don't Be Hate'n... <img src="<>/mad.gif" alt="mad" title="mad" height="15" width="15" />

Good for the rest of you that are doing what you can to support the sport. <img src="<>/laugh.gif" alt="laugh" title="laugh" height="15" width="15" />


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 12:01 am
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We love the Waves at Sail Sand Point in Seattle. Just added two new Waves to our fleet. Standing order, all six SSP Waves are available to Youth to race locally at NO CHARGE.

Results from our last race at SSP Octoberfest Regatta, Wave class.
And yes, that is grandson Dan in the picture. BTW, 81 boats were on the course, one start line, several courses, plus ten Moths flying thru the area and racing. No problems, lots of fun.
Caleb Tarleton
Hobie Wave Class
Sailed:8, Discards:1, To count:7, Entries:5, Scoring system:Appendix A
Rank Fleet Class SailNo HelmName CrewName R1 9/26/09 R2 9/26/09 R3 9/26/09 R4 9/26/09 R5 9/26/09 R6 9/26/09 R7 9/27/09 R8 9/27/09 R9 9/27/09 R10 9/27/09 R11 9/27/09 R12 9/27/09 Total
1st Hobie Wave Hobie Wave H2 Dan Tarleton 1 5 1 1 (6.0 RAF) 1 1 1 17
2nd Hobie Wave Hobie Wave 1 Damian Parlee 2 1 2 3 2 2 -4 3 19
3rd Hobie Wave Hobie Wave 3 Carson Moyes 3 2 3 -5 1 4 3 2 23
4th Hobie Wave Hobie Wave 9 Isabella Conradi Sophia Conradi -5 3 5 2 3 3 5 5 31
5th Hobie Wave Hobie Wave 41 Caleb Knudson 4 4 4 4 4 -5 2 4 31


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 3:47 am
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Originally Posted by Mark Schneider
Yeah its Christmas... I should be charitable and let this pass ... but some things make no sense and you just have to ask the hard questions...

Pete...

Why do you think the Wave's are looking to do more regattas?
Usually... the fleet asks the club to host their event.... not the other way around.

Rick
Do you think most of the Waves will do back to back regattas?

Pete... Are you sure enough about their turnout to go buy trophies ahead of time?

All,
I am wondering What your thinking is?? Why is scheduling more regattas better for the class? Is there a home fleet of Waves that hopes that the other wave sailors will reciprocate and show up at your club for the event? Are the Wave sailors known for showing up in force at back to back regattas?

If 2 waves show up...Is that good for the Wave Class? More importantly... Do they show up next year? Did they show up to the traditional regatta or... do they pick the most convenient one? Do they pick the one with the rep for a turnout... leaving the your club... with a table of trophies?

Your club might be the only one in America that thinks mixing three high performance cat fleets with Waves is a good idea.

See the thread on last years Tradewinds regatta where splitting the non spin and spin boats was viewed as critical and waves are a special breed again.

Do you promise to separate the two for safety reasons on separate race courses? I don't live in Florida... but as an A Class sailor... I would probably not attend the regatta based on mixing in Waves on the same race course.

I must be missing something about how you guys schedule and mix classes at events to strengthen the sport. What am I missing?

Mark, all your points are very valid. But I can't speak for other Wave sailors in the mid-Florida area, who might love to go to the Gulfport regatta. We will certainly try to let them all know about it.
Rick and I can't go, because Rick will be doing a seminar.


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 4:17 am
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Originally Posted by pgp
Mary, Rick et al:

The officers and board of GYC have asked me to invite the IWCA to attend our April regatta. In the past few years this event has grown and typically involves A class, F18 and F16. The Waves will be a welcome addition.

Also, we have a very relaxed winter membership program for those who would like to stay awhile.

We appreciate the offer and recognition and I for one would like to race at GYC. However, as noted, there are some problems associated with Waves and fast cats in the same arena.

Perhaps GYC might want to host one of our major events NEXT year, such as the North Americans or Nationals. Not to take anything away from Rick/Mary/Founders Park, etc., but these events ought to move around IMO.


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 8:08 am
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<img src="<>/smile.gif" alt="smile" title="smile" height="15" width="15" /> I'll let you folks work that out amongst yourselves. Generally speaking, everyone is welcome at GYC.


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 10:07 am
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Jack,
The way we have it set up is the Nationals stay in Key Largo on the first weekend of the December annually.
The North Americans is the event we move around to different fleets. GYC is not a fleet, so doubt we would give them the NAs.
This year the NAs were supposed to go to Indianapolis, but Skip and I discussed it and they are willing to forego the 2010 NAs until 2011.
The reason is the I-LYA Bay Week has changed its format to be on a Fri-Sun, instead of a Mon-Wed.
We feel this will make the regatta at Put-in-Bay much larger, and so we wanted to add to that the honor of NAs as well to make it even larger.

Rick


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 11:22 am
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Rick: If you know of Waves in the mid-Florida/Tampa Bay area, please send them our way. We don't have a Wave fleet yet. But that could change!


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by RickWhite
Jack,
The way we have it set up is the Nationals stay in Key Largo on the first weekend of the December annually.

Fine with me although I didn't know that.

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The North Americans is the event we move around to different fleets.

The reason is the I-LYA Bay Week has changed its format to be on a Fri-Sun, instead of a Mon-Wed.

We feel this will make the regatta at Put-in-Bay much larger, and so we wanted to add to that the honor of NAs as well to make it even larger.

Rick

Is that official? Friday, Sat, Sun? For Bay Week. And....that will be the NAs for 2010?

When will the Sandusky Steeplechase be?


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 11:52 am
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Originally Posted by pgp
Rick: If you know of Waves in the mid-Florida/Tampa Bay area, please send them our way. We don't have a Wave fleet yet. But that could change!

Stan and Sharon Woodruff are in Ruskin and my boat is in Alachua for the winter. I will join your fleet should you get one going.


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 11:53 am
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Would you ping the Woodruffs and extend our invitation?


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by pgp
Would you ping the Woodruffs and extend our invitation?

I can try, but what I am saying is there are some active Waves nearby that might attend you

fleet

races. I don't think we are the organizers you need however.

Like...you do it and we will come.

I would think that there must be a dealer in the Tampa/St. Pete area that would be the one to organize this and rally his flock.

We could then come and kick their bu.....err show them how to race Waves efficiently. <img src="<>/smirk.gif" alt="smirk" title="smirk" height="15" width="15" />


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 12:43 pm
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Steeplechase is Thursday. I might just take my Taipan 4.9 up just for that.., or get my Wave Hooter back in operation -- won it one year with the Wave and Hooter.
Rick


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 1:48 pm
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Stan doesn't even have a computer, or know how to use one. Probably why he can't find the B mark sometimes. <img src="<>/grin.gif" alt="grin" title="grin" height="15" width="15" />

Sharon, however, does.
Interesting, Stan has 6 Waves on his beach in Ruskin. One of them is Linwood's, who sails in the Nationals and other S FL events quite often, when duties allow him to do so.

GYC might be a very viable place to build a good fleet with so many boats in the area.

I will pass along the thread to Sharon
Rick


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by RickWhite
Steeplechase is Thursday. I might just take my Taipan 4.9 up just for that.., or get my Wave Hooter back in operation -- won it one year with the Wave and Hooter.
Rick

Good. I will have

Tallahasse Lassie

on the line. It would be neat if we could get some of the Catsailor regulars to Bay Week now that it is a weekend. C'mon guys. Don't make me be the only one to roll Rick and his 4.9!

I know there are plenty of fast cats that would like to take a crack at Rick.


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 1:57 pm
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No dealer with any interest, that I'm aware of. 'Course, I've been wrong before.


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 1:58 pm
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For the sailors that questioned our Octoberfest Regatta with 81 boats and one start line, here is how it was done. PRO Kevin Cunningham ran the two day event from one committee boat.
There were about 10 marks, each had a letter designator. Sailors had a course chart with the marks noted. Each start had class designation and course posted on the committee boat. This was primarly a Youth Event, and they have seen this system before.
See excellent pictures by Peter Jorna https://www.photoshop.com/?user=pjo... 0d9f36&wf=share&trackingid=BTAGC

See event results posted at www.sailsandpoint.org

Peter and I were on one of several safety boats on the course.

No reason why you can not run a combined Event of this type. If the Youth can do it, why not the Adults?

Caleb Tarleton


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 3:01 pm
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Caleb,

Maybe because the adults are not as smart as the kids ....

Harry Murphey


 
Posted : December 22, 2009 3:11 pm
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