What a GREAT Day for election results!
Even Illinois? A Repo Governor? Who'd a thought?
The liberal agenda is being held up by the republican party in many areas now Todd. You just don't understand that they are out to screw you, no matter what party you align yourself with. It's a corrupt and broken system, I promise, a few states changing colors will not change that.
same circus, different monkeys....
Until we get rid of career politicians, lobbyist, and corruption, we will have the same problems no matter who is in office.
When Obama was elected the country spoke.
When this election happened the country spoke.
It was screwed up with the republican party, its screwed up with the democratic party. Not that the Tea party will fix it either, we need a clean sweep of all the politicians with people who really represent Americans and American interest, not just their own pockets and their
lifetime benefits
.
Say what you want but our political system is broken no matter who is in office.
Same thing, different year. At least they're not attacking US Sailing or other cats this time.
Mark raises some good points, all of which we've been discussing with US Sailing under the Multihull Racing Committee. If anyone here is interested in doing something more constructive with their off-season time, we'd love to have your help.
Mike
Until we get rid of career politicians, lobbyist, and corruption, we will have the same problems no matter who is in office.
When Obama was elected the country spoke.
When this election happened the country spoke.
It was screwed up with the republican party, its screwed up with the democratic party. Not that the Tea party will fix it either, we need a clean sweep of all the politicians with people who really represent Americans and American interest, not just their own pockets and their
lifetime benefits
.
Say what you want but our political system is broken no matter who is in office.
Yup. Throw them all out! And don't
RE
elect anybody!
Check out P.J. O'Rourke's books on politics, in particular his
Parliament of Whores
and
Don't vote, it just encourages the bastards!
From Parliament of Whores:
Authority has always attracted the lowest elements in the human race. All through history mankind has been bullied by scum. Those who lord it over their fellows and toss commands in every direction and would boss the grass in the meadow about which way to bend in the wind are the most depraved kind of prostitutes. They will submit to any indignity, perform any vile act, do anything to achieve power. The worst off-sloughings of the planet are the ingredients of sovereignty. Every government is a Parliament of Whores. The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us.
—Parliament of Whores
http://www.pjorourke.com/
Funny stuff but dead on accurate.
We've asked him for a political forum- that's his decision.
But I gotta tell ya,- How Hilarious! Have you read the things ya'll are saying?
Now we have non Americans- upset about and discussing USA politics- huh?
Have you read my firsst few posts that started this thread?
Have you?
'Crawl back in your hole?' oh yea, real grown up there
Who is the one that needs to get a life?
Grow up?? Have you read some of your's and your buddy's past post's. You two should get a room and get it over with.
Why don't you two exchange e-mail addresses so you can pummel each other in private?
Aren't there enough places out there to have these talks? Why don't you two start your own website and talk politics all day. Let us know how it goes.
Do you really think either one of you are going to change each others minds or anyone else's?
The pendulum has swung the other way. It will swing back so temper your joy until something real actually happens.
Grow up, LOL, Why don't you
WISE
up.
Now we have non Americans- upset about and discussing USA politics- huh?
huh? huh? Are you discriminating me???????
Since when plays the fact that I'm non-american a part on this forum?
Look, I thought that the basic starting-point for a forum is freedom of speech for everyone. With the rule to show respect to each other. (This last is now and then violated in the heat of the discussion, even in this topic).
But anyway, this freedom of speech means in this forum freedom of placing posts and freedom of opening topics. With one exception: spam. And yes, its a catsailor forum, subjects are primary connected to catsailing.
But when for instance this forum started to discuss extensively the change in healthcare cost legislation, I heard nobody complain, nor the word
crap
.
Or discussions about airplane-accidents, etc,etc.
The outcome of a US election which shifts the political balance is news from the same caliber. nothing more, nothing less. I would be very surprised if it was not mentioned in a topic here.
No sir, and I wasn't referring to you.
You have every right- my apologies.
NorthSea Junkie- when I read your posts, look at your videos, etc.
What comes to mind regarding you, is I want to repeatedly bow down,
and keep repeating 'I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy,...
Thanks, apology accepted, no need to bow at all.
You sound a bit damaged and emotional. That's fully understandable after this full load of sh.t which some members ment to dump over you. They must have reasons for that in their perception; which I definitly don't want to know.
I found these utterances crossbordering and really not suitable for repetition.
Like I stated before: a forum can only prosper if there is freedom of speech combined with respect between the members.(A bit like in a normal civilized society).
But in defense for everybody; this is on a catsailor forum maybe a hard principle.
Catsailing, in its core, is not so much a sport of controlled nuances. I mean: you tack or don't, you jibe or you don't, you capsize or not. When I sail at see, I take every second a decision: do I take this wave yes or no, do I steer upwind or downwind, yes or no, etc.
Eventually your mind can be influenced by this yes/no surrounding with the risk of ending up with a short fuse. Combine that with the large ego that sailors in general have and you see the reason for trouble.
I know, this is pure psychology from the cold ground (like we say in dutch). Shoot me.
You've shown us that you're quite the political prognosticator (no, not proctologist) Todd. As the 2016 elections are closing in can you rank the following potential candidates?
Jeb Bush
Dr. Ben Carson
Chris Christie
Ted Cruz
Joni Ernst
Louie Gohmert
Trey Gowdy
John Huntsman Jr.
Bobby Jindal
Peter King
Steve King
Sarah Palin
Rand Paul
David Perdue
Rick Perry
Mitt Romney
Marco Rubio
Paul Ryan
Rick Santorum
Jeff Sessions
Donald Trump
Scott Walker
Allen West
Please insert any of your favorites I may have missed.
You are correct Ronald. I would only add that freedom of speech should not mean absence of discretion. Criticize ideas, not people
And if we throw out all the career politicians, who the heck will run for government office?
You have to appreciate a political snake in the grass for what he/she is: an effective tool to advance your agenda.
What seems to make people upset is they don't have the means/ability to get that snake to work for THEM...
I suspect if we upset big business (who likely control the snakes anyway) enough then they'll move elsewhere?
But yes, it's more interesting to follow sailing and work on all those issues...
GOPLifer sez:
The missing story of the 2014 election
Few things are as dangerous to a long term strategy as a short-term victory. Republicans this week scored the kind of win that sets one up for spectacular, catastrophic failure and no one is talking about it.
What emerges from the numbers is the continuation of a trend that has been in place for almost two decades. Once again, Republicans are disappearing from the competitive landscape at the national level across the most heavily populated sections of the country while intensifying their hold on a declining electoral bloc of aging, white, rural voters. The 2014 election not only continued that doomed pattern, it doubled down on it. As a result, it became apparent from the numbers last week that no Republican candidate has a credible shot at the White House in 2016, and the chance of the GOP holding the Senate for longer than two years is precisely zero.
For Republicans looking for ways that the party can once again take the lead in building a nationally relevant governing agenda, the 2014 election is a prelude to a disaster. Understanding this trend begins with a stark graphic.
Behold the Blue Wall:
The Blue Wall is block of states that no Republican Presidential candidate can realistically hope to win. Tuesday that block finally extended to New Hampshire, meaning that at the outset of any Presidential campaign, a minimally effective Democratic candidate can expect to win 257 electoral votes without even trying. That’s 257 out of the 270 needed to win.
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