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(@erice)
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looks like someone here in japan is selling a tornado

what can you tornado experts tell from the pics

the japanese text babelfished is

20 feet catamarans (England make) sale has not been taken to the photograph, but 2? 3 it turns and you think that it is not to use and is the same as the new item. Present condition delivery

http://www.asian-navi.net/HC-14/Tornado-08.html


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 12:07 am
(@Anonymous 17342)
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Well ,I am not T expert but I bet you could have fun on it!


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 12:12 am
(@Anonymous 15703)
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I bet you could have fun towing it through Tokyo.
regards


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 12:32 am
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Looks like an old (late 70s or very early 80s) Reg White with IYE gear to me. Expect structural issues if you push the old lady. It should be very, very, cheap. We had loads of fun on a T similar to this when we started sailing. First question tough, do you have a partner to sail with?


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 1:26 am
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thought it might be early 80's as the boom hardware looks very similar to the stuff on my 1982 nacra 5.2

yes, not really a boat for me as i sail 99% solo and can't even right the 17foot nacra by myself let alone a 10foot wide 20foot boat

plus our lake is generally considered to be too small for a hobie 16

may get the wife to call though....


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 1:40 am
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Looks like a nice boat. I'd guess an early to mid '80's sailcraft or reg white. Reg's later boats had an unusual way to mount the frontbeam...there were flanges down the outside of the inner gunwales. Bolts went horizontally through the flanges into the hulls. Idea was to improve platform stiffness.


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 2:37 am
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You mean rearbeam, dont you? We had those, and they did not really help <img src=

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Posted : January 30, 2008 2:40 am
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notice it has raked spreaders on the mast, something that the nacra 5.2 didn't get until about 1984...


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 3:25 am
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Wish it was near me, I would be all over it!


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 11:51 am
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Looks like a Early mid 80's White boat to me.


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 12:26 pm
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Kind of looks like a IYE mast step on the main beam from 70-80.
IYE masts had sweep back spreaders back then, before Sailcraft of England had them.


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 1:07 pm
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Definitely 80's Reg White with Sailspar mast and beams. With the three tone waterline it's a Reg White 'Special'. This means extra local reinforcing, stiffer decks etc.

Rolf, you're right. It was only the rear beam that had the inner gunwhale plate. Main beam was normal bolt through. The mast doesn't look as though it's been set up with sufficient pre-bend and, of course, the sails will just be the 'classic' rig.


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 2:21 pm
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got an email reply from the contact guy saying

1986's UK Reg White

Special

The world champion boat

Sailspar mast and beams Sale Smith(One race use)


 
Posted : January 30, 2008 8:29 pm
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and now a price

half a million yen, or near enough to 500,000cents =$5000

japan is a funny market

an old hobie14 can sell for more than a nacra 5.2 because it's a hobie and most people have heard of hobies. no one here has heard of a nacra

so an old tornado was either going to go 1 of 2 ways

either an over priced

collectors

boat playing on it's olympic heritage or an under priced bargain

looks like it's the former


 
Posted : January 31, 2008 12:45 am
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It doesn't actually look like a Tornado. It looks like an ARC-22 with a Tornado sail. The hull design looks more like something from Aquarius.

[Linked Image]


 
Posted : February 1, 2008 3:58 pm
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Quote
It doesn't actually look like a Tornado. It looks like an ARC-22 with a Tornado sail. The hull design looks more like something from Aquarius.

looks like an ARC-22

as in

it's got two hulls

? <img src=

alt=

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Posted : February 1, 2008 4:04 pm
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Ive had a big day flogged by the wind broken my blocks off the traveller boom off the yoke, drank too much booze aw forgot bent my boom but fair dinkum that looks like a Tornado


 
Posted : February 2, 2008 7:34 am
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except for the dagger boards...


 
Posted : February 2, 2008 8:56 am
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This picture is not a tornado. Raised beam seats are one give away. Also, the bow is much more curvacious on the T...while the gunwales are smaller radiused.

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It doesn't actually look like a Tornado. It looks like an ARC-22 with a Tornado sail. The hull design looks more like something from Aquarius.

[Linked Image]


 
Posted : February 2, 2008 12:16 pm
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My question is how many characters are in the Japanese alphabet? How big is the laptop key board that typed that stuff?
sorry, bored...


 
Posted : February 2, 2008 4:31 pm
 Karl
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Not that it matters I think Japanese is written right to left.

Is japanese totally a symbol written language with no alphabet?


 
Posted : February 2, 2008 5:14 pm
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for the bored...

there are 3 alphabets in japanese

the 2 minor ones are phonetic, like english, and have 50 characters each.............those 2 are pretty easy for foreigners to learn

the problem is the main alphabet?, kanji

it was lifted straight from the chinese thousands of years ago and before the war had thousands and thousands of characters. but after the war the basic set taught in high school was reduced to just under 2000 characters

still every year seems to see more and more kids struggling to understand what their grandparents write

japanese computer keyboards are basically the same with only a couple more keys to change between alphabets. most japanese just type in an abc version of japanese called romanji but as so many different kanji word/pictures have the same pronunciation, and hence abc spelling, you are forever dancing around the function keys selecting which kanji you really mean

and that's why translation software has such a hard time going from east asian languages to english

suzuki

the bike, usually ends up being called

sea bream

a fish etc. as each word often changes in context to the words around it

kind of like

chevrolet corvette stingray

translation software would leave

chevrolet

alone but would probably translate

corvette

into small naval vessel and

stingray

into the fish...

here endeth the lesson


 
Posted : February 2, 2008 6:48 pm
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for the bored...

there are 3 alphabets in japanese

the 2 minor ones are phonetic, like english, and have 50 characters each.............those 2 are pretty easy for foreigners to learn

the problem is the main alphabet?, kanji

it was lifted straight from the chinese thousands of years ago and before the war had thousands and thousands of characters. but after the war the basic set taught in high school was reduced to just under 2000 characters

still every year seems to see more and more kids struggling to understand what their grandparents write

japanese computer keyboards are basically the same with only a couple more keys to change between alphabets. most japanese just type in an abc version of japanese called romanji but as so many different kanji word/pictures have the same pronunciation, and hence abc spelling, you are forever dancing around the function keys selecting which kanji you really mean

and that's why translation software has such a hard time going from east asian languages to english

suzuki

the bike, usually ends up being called

sea bream

a fish etc. as each word often changes in context to the words around it

kind of like

chevrolet corvette stingray

translation software would leave

chevrolet

alone but would probably translate

corvette

into small naval vessel and

stingray

into the fish...

here endeth the lesson

oh, and japanese is traditionally written from top to bottom but now from left to to right is pretty common

but books are often printed

backwards

so you need to turn the pages the other way.....


 
Posted : February 2, 2008 6:56 pm
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now I know, thanks, and good luck if you decide o get that boat. Maybe you can get it a few less Yen....


 
Posted : February 2, 2008 10:06 pm
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Quote
for the bored...

there are 3 alphabets in japanese

the 2 minor ones are phonetic, like english, and have 50 characters each.............those 2 are pretty easy for foreigners to learn

the problem is the main alphabet?, kanji

it was lifted straight from the chinese thousands of years ago and before the war had thousands and thousands of characters. but after the war the basic set taught in high school was reduced to just under 2000 characters

still every year seems to see more and more kids struggling to understand what their grandparents write

japanese computer keyboards are basically the same with only a couple more keys to change between alphabets. most japanese just type in an abc version of japanese called romanji but as so many different kanji word/pictures have the same pronunciation, and hence abc spelling, you are forever dancing around the function keys selecting which kanji you really mean

and that's why translation software has such a hard time going from east asian languages to english

suzuki

the bike, usually ends up being called

sea bream

a fish etc. as each word often changes in context to the words around it

kind of like

chevrolet corvette stingray

translation software would leave

chevrolet

alone but would probably translate

corvette

into small naval vessel and

stingray

into the fish...

here endeth the lesson

oh, and japanese is traditionally written from top to bottom but now from left to to right is pretty common

but books are often printed

backwards

so you need to turn the pages the other way.....

And f course the chrs are displayed in Double byte char set.

I wrote a system to translate Computer screens and the like from English to varoius other langs including Kanji / katakana.


 
Posted : February 3, 2008 3:44 am
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